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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by spartanpride, Mar 7, 2010.

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  1. spartanpride

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    Here's the first page of the article talking about how a "liberal" legal organization sided with RKBA advocates in the SCOTUS McDonald case agains Chicago's gun ban. We've often pointed out that this is a cultural as well as a political/legal struggle. Changing the recent cultural bias against gun owners the Antis have worked so hard to create back to a neutral or positive view of responsible gun ownership is important in shifting the argument.

     
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    It seems that real thought must be put into who is in agreement and who is an "enemy". The two communities of thought "liberal" vs. "conservative" have for too long been stereotyped and oversimplified. Free thinkers are able to arrive at opinions that may look like a smorgasbord of cliched opinion.
     
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    Very true and a perspective that is sadly in short supply here at THR. Two of the biggest, most fervent "anti's" that I know are both hardline Reaganite conservatives. They distrust people in general and, as a result, would prefer that none be armed. "Why do you need a gun?" they've both asked me when we've discussed 2nd A. And I've got Democrat friends who are NRA members. Whatever the dividing line is, it ain't "liberal vs conservative" and people had better figure that out because a lot of energy gets uselessly wasted due to this error in assumptions.

    If you forced me to guess, I'd say that some of us are willing to take responsibility for our own protection as first-line responders for ourselves and our loved ones. Others refuse to do that, and that's the dividing line.
     
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    Of my friends, it's the die-hard conservatives who are proposing a new "assault weapon ban" (even though they couldn't even *define* an assault weapon when I asked), and who think that there should be limits to gun ownership.

    Yes, the tables are turning, and people need to realize this before turning even more converts off with anti-liberal talk. I see it a lot on various gun boards.
     
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    yes.
     
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    I hope that more liberals will learn to accept this point of view. After all, liberals like the Bill of Rights too... albeit more towards the 1st than the 2nd. However, they really need to understand that many of our rights are really at the mercy of the 2nd amendment. Without it, freedom erodes rapidly.
    Good for them, and more power to them. Lets work together to rebuild our foundation.
     
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    Link has Virus!
     
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    I read digg.com a lot, and the prevailing winds there definitely blow from the left. Even so, there is a very strong pro-gun sentiment in the comments whenever an article dealing with gun rights comes up. "Anti" comments are generally dugg-down to the point that they fall below viewing threshold.
     
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