Pronunciation of "OGIVE" ?

[il.bill]

Greetings -

I have a simple question: What is the correct pronunciation of the word "OGIVE" ?

I would expect the "O" and the "I" to be pronounced as 'long vowels' and the "E" to be 'silent'. The "G" appearing before the "I" seems likely to be pronounced 'soft' as in the word "gin", but if the "I" is actually 'long' then perhaps the "G" is 'hard' as in the word "gun".

My guess is: long O - soft G - Long I - regular old V - silent E.

I posted this thread in the Handloading and Reloading forum since this is by far where I run across the word "ogive" the most often.

Thanks!

 

[pretzelxx]

I say it 'oh jive'.

 

[TroyUT]

I've always pronounced it "Ohg-I've"

 

[rcmodel]

ogive noun \ˈō-ˌjīv\

Oh Jive!

Rhymes with OGIVE
alive, archive, arrive, beehive, connive, contrive, crash-dive, deprive, derive, disk drive, endive, hard drive.

rc

 

[gamestalker]

Ol, like "old", drop the "D", and then "hive", then drop the "H".

GS

 

[chiltech500]

Wow didn't know there were this many variants possible. Sounds like rcmodel looked it up

 

[Rico567]

Not as in "Oh give me a home where the buffalo roam." Like "pretzelxx" says, "oh-jive."

 

[MEHavey]

> An ogive is the roundly tapered end of a two-dimensional
> or three-dimensional object.
>
> Villard de Honnecourt, a 13th-century itinerant master-builder
> from the Picardy in the north of France, was the first writer
> to use the word ogive. The OED considers the French term's
> origin obscure; it might come from the Late Latin obviata,
> the feminine perfect passive participle of obviare, to resist,
> i.e. the arches resisting the downward force of the structure's
> mass

I knew there was sex in HERE somewhere.

 

[Jcinnb]

Since shipboard weapons training in school, in early 70's, it has been O-Jive.

 

[Gadawg88]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?ogive001.wav=ogive

 

[carbine85]

Anyway you want. Nobody knows what it is anyway

 

[Captcurt]

> An ogive is the roundly tapered end of a two-dimensional
> or three-dimensional object.
>
> Villard de Honnecourt, a 13th-century itinerant master-builder
> from the Picardy in the north of France, was the first writer
> to use the word ogive. The OED considers the French term's
> origin obscure; it might come from the Late Latin obviata,
> the feminine perfect passive participle of obviare, to resist,
> i.e. the arches resisting the downward force of the structure's
> mass

I knew there was sex in HERE somewhere.

So what you are saying is that we are getting in touch with our feminine side?

 

[LiveLife]

At least on internet forums, it doesn't matter as we all post as "ogive"

In person, I just use "bullet nose shape/profile" instead of "ogive"


Since we are on the pronunciation topic, what is the proper vocalization of Hodgon?

Is it hodg*don (/häj-dən/) with silent d or hod*gdon (/häd-dən/) with silent g? Even after 20 years of reloading I feel so dumb whenever I have to say it in front of people and "blurt" something out with people going "Huh?" and I have to go, "You know, HP-38, H4895, etc.).

 

[higgite]

Since we are on the pronunciation topic, what is the proper vocalization of Hodgon?

First, let's cover how to spell Hodgdon.

If you call it anything other than hodge-dun, I'll go "Huh?" Or maybe "Say what?"

 

[il.bill]

Wow didn't know there were this many variants possible. Sounds like rcmodel looked it up

This could be the first time anyone on THR got any "jive" from rcmodel.

 

[Gadawg88]

Link to video interview with Chris Hodgdon, including pronunciation of their name.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmpSIiz5oa8

 

[LiveLife]

what is the proper vocalization of Hodgon?

First, let's cover how to spell Hodgdon.

Oh no! I think what my wife has been saying all these years may be true ... I am losing my mind!

Sorry, I was halfway through my first cup of coffee and had a rough week of work with like 4-5 hours of sleep each night.

Who said working for the government was easy ... and i am on a 2 year assignment from hell ... yeah, one of those "special" projects.

 

[twofifty]

I too heard ogive was originally a French word, and yes at first it described pointed arches as used in churchbuilding.

The French also did a lot of pioneering work with artillery rounds & carriages, rifle ammo, and smokeless powders back in the late 1800s.
Nowadays, their nuclear ballistic missile RVs (re-entry vehicles) are called
"ogive nucléaire".

If you think about it RVs are shaped like a blunt tipped bullet, but iirc the re-entry part of the ballistic flight is done back end first - like an Apollo capsule riding its heat shield.

 

[twofifty]

Anyone know why Dillon is pronounced Dillion?

 

[Nordeste]

http://www.wordreference.com/es/translation.asp?tranword=ogive

 

[Carl N. Brown]

This is one of the words I have read but never heard spoken.

Wiktionary has an article with pronounciation guides at http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ogive

The Wikipedia article on ogive starts:

An ogive (/ˈoʊdʒaɪv/ OH-jyv) is the roundly tapered end of a two-dimensional or three-dimensional object.

Oh jive. Reminds me of a comedy routine in Airplane!

 

[gamestalker]

Some other's that irritate me when mis pronounced, Leupold, Zeiss, and Swarovski. Does it bother anyone else, or is it just me?

GS

 

[Rico567]

Some other's that irritate me when mis pronounced, Leupold, Zeiss, and Swarovski. Does it bother anyone else, or is it just me?

GS

I make every effort to be clear and precise in my use of language. I do not, however, expect others to exercise the same care.*

*I was a high school teacher for 32 years, and I understand the futility of this.

 

[higgite]

Some other's that irritate me when mis pronounced, Leupold, Zeiss, and Swarovski. Does it bother anyone else, or is it just me?

GS

How IS Leupold pronounced? Is it Loo-poled? Or Loop-old?

 

[StandingTall]

How IS Leupold pronounced? Is it Loo-poled? Or Loop-old?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LC38rBYK7c