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proper term for assault rifles?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by p35bhp09, Feb 18, 2006.

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  1. p35bhp09

    p35bhp09 Member

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    Just what is the correct way to generalize the ar-15, ak-47, sks type rifle. While I'm big into gun rights hearing someone call them assault rifles just doesn't bother me. I mean a bolt action is a bolt action, a pump is a pump, so what are they? Not trying to make anyone mad this early in the morning I'm just uninformed on the matter and need educating. thanks
     
  2. 355sigfan

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    I have no problem with the term assault rifle. The only feature their missing is a rock and roll switch. I don't play the name games that some gun owners get into. There is nothing wrong with owning real assault rifles with the full auto switch in my opinion. No need to demonize them.
    Pat
     
  3. Chawbaccer

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    I believe the term you want is semi-auto or self loading. But I like to call them assault rifle too.
     
  4. Kodiaz

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    How about "high volume anti looter device"

    Evil Black Rifle is a good one though.
     
  5. Ad Astra

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    "Military-style semi-auto rifle?"

    A GP WASR-10 isn't an AK-47, a Mini-14 can't take a bayonet, an SKS doesn't take a detachable mag (reliably :rolleyes: ).... the definitions get complicated.

    The great unwashed public believes "assualt weapons" are machineguns, and *somehow,* maybe through NRA membership, they can be bought at the nearest gunstore.

    I was in a newspaper office once where the classified ads had a policy of "no assualt rifle ads"... the proofreader, a non-shooter, didn't have a clue...
     
  6. thatguy

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    An assault rifle is a long arm chambering an intermediate cartridge capable of fully auto fire. Some people took to calling the semi-auto versions of these guns AWs but when the political storm erupted in 1989 over these guns the anti-gunners in the legislature and the press latched onto the term to make them more dangerous sounding to an uninformed public. It would help if we didn't contribute to this propaganda so we should simply call them what they are which is semi-auto rifles.
     
  7. 1911 guy

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    No feature of any weapon makes it an assault weapon.

    An assault weapon is the weapon you happen to have with you when you need to assault someone or something. The venerable M-1 Garand does not fit the description of assault weapon in most minds, yet it worked just fine for thousands of men in Normandy. My .36 caliber flintlock is by no means an assault weapon, until you put it in the hands of a torqued off farmer who isn't going to take it any more and joins the Continental Army. Or defends New Orleans (in 1814 we took a little trip along with Col. Jackson down the mighty Mississipp. We took a little bacon and we took a little beans and we fought the bloody British at the town of New Orleans). Is a bolt action an assault rifle? No, until you put it in the hands of a U.S. Cavalry soldier who happens to be following a dude named Roosevelt up Kettle Hill. '03 Springfield? Tell it to the Doughboys. I've made my point.
     
  8. FPrice

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    I have a rather unique name for them.

    I call them..... rifles.

    If anyone tries to go overboard with "demonizing" or "overly-technical" names I usually just smile and calmly correct them as necessary.
     
  9. Chipperman

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    "Homeland Defense Rifle"
     
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    Liberal pisser offers:neener:

    Kevin
     
  11. 355sigfan

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    Semi auto rifle does not quite cover it. As a Marlin tube fed 22 is a semi auto as is a Browning BAR in 338 win mag. I believe the military style semi auto is a good compromise. I love these guns their fun and I am not ashamed to own them.
    pat
     
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    I've always thought "assault rifle" is a term thought up and used by media types and antis to describe anything that looked different (pistol grip, black, plastic or long magazine extending from the bottom) . Also used for guns involved in a crime. The term could also be substituted for "evil". I've also read and heard of "assault pistols" but have no idea what they are. One of the many media terms that P---me off!!
     
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    Intermediate caliber high-capacity semi-automatic rifles

    thought about putting military in there, then thought through it...

    But I don't get my panties in a bunch when people call them "assault rifles", simply because, right or wrong, that's become a commonly used term, and most people understand the type referred to.
     
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    The current definition of "assualt weapon/rifle" is any firearm that is used in a crime, fired at a police officer, fired within 10 miles of an elementary school or playground, recovered by the LEOs on Cops, Dallas SWAT or any other current "follow the cops around with a camera" TV shows, and/or held by Diane Feinstein (usually violating most firearm safety rules) at a political rally.
     
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    Call them what they are:

    ...and a semi-auto is a semi-auto.
     
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    semi auto/self loading rifles. :)
     
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    The term "assault rifle" IS a proper term - for military-style SELECT-FIRE (aka full-auto, machineguns) weapons.

    The term "assault weapon" is a derrogatory term made up by gun-grabbers in a profoundly failed attempt to categorize & demonize weapons that remind the ignorant of "assault rifles" but without the select-fire or full-auto capability.

    "Assault weapon" was the basis for the 1994-2004 ban on certian ugly/scary guns. It failed miserably because there is no sane way to legally & effectively define the category; attempts to do so revolved around cosmetic features common to but not neccessary for such weapons. Such guns commonly have pistol grips, flash suppressors, detatchable magazines, etc. ... but are practically just as effective without them.

    The only proper term to use would be "military style semiautomatic" - which are considered "bad" by many only because they're scary ugly.
     
  18. boofus

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    What about "semi-automatic clone"?

    "Assault rifle" or "automatic rifle" makes more sense in the military definition-> a select-fire weapon chambered for an intermediate cartridge.
     
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    A rose by any other name may smell as sweet, but calling a rose "dung" will only make people look at you funny and not take you seriously.

    Unless actually talking about military full-auto-capable intermediate-caliber military rifles, use of the term "assault rifle" usually means the speaker is ignorant and should be ignored.
     
  20. Euclidean

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    +1 on "rifles"

    An AK47 clone is an AK47 clone in my terminology.

    An AR15 is an AR15.

    etc. etc.

    The term does have meaning, but it refers to a gun with select fire capability. I prefer not to misuse words on purpose.

    The other thing is, "assault" is a behavior not a descriptor. The shooter determines what the rifle is used for not the other way around.
     
  21. mattf7184

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    Damn, all those handguns I have since they are used by militaries are military styled handguns!!! :what:

    I like the term Homeland Defense Rifle, however we can just call guns such as non assault rifle ARs what they are.....semi automatic magazine fed rifles...

    How many here would get pissed if someone used clip and magazine interchangeably, but not assault weapon, assault rifle, etc?

    The terms were blurred together by the antis to give a bad image to all magazine fed rifles with pistol grips. Not all of these semi automatic, magazine fed, pistol gripped rifles are military rifles either. Any time the media mentions assault ~insert flavor of month here~ people think fully automatic firearms. The general public believes the rhetoric to how readily available they are and how the NRA is about owning machine guns, grenades, RPGs, tanks, and nuclear weapons...
     
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    MY PRECIOUSSSSSSS

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  23. Zen21Tao

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    I, like some others, hate the terms "assault rifle" and "assult weapon". The term assult rifle was used to classifly a type of selective fire battle rifle where as the term assault weapon was made up for the some purpose of demonizing a type of sporting rifle that "ressmbles" a military assault rifle. In fact, the similiarity in the terms was designed for the sole purpose of gathering support for the ban through fear and deception.

    My pet pieve is when gun owners that say they support the second amendment allow the press to get away with using these terms inapporpriately. Granted many reporters do this because they "don't know any better" not because they are out to support the anti-gun agenda. But, the anti-gun crowd preys on this type of ignorance to further their cause. When we fail to call the media on their irronsability and ignorance we allow gun-control to further its reach towards our beloved rights.
     
  24. nipprdog

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    Assault is a behavior, not a device.

    ;)
     
  25. Srigs

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    I like it!:D

    I also like "Semiauto rifle with a high capacity mag!"
     
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