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Proposed new laws would fire sheriffs for defying gun control measures...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by oneounceload, Mar 27, 2013.

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  1. oneounceload

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    So now that the elected sheriffs can possibly be fired for not following unconstitutional laws, maybe someone should start a law enforcing the one about treason, malfeasance of office, not upholding the Constitution they swore to uphold, etc.

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/law-w...-defying-gun-control-measures/article/2525518


    C'mon Texas folks - you always brag about your gun friendliness - get to your reps about this 'politician'.
     
  2. Nico Testosteros

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    Courts, not individuals, decide whether a law is unconstitutional or not.
     
  3. Queen_of_Thunder

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    It cannot be done legally.
     
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    Just think of all those illegal immigrant sanctuary city officers that would all lose their jobs! That alone should stall this new legislation.

    Andy
     
  5. N003k

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    One of the biggest tools LEO's have is their discretion...if they take that away, well, I sure hope these politicians have a good idea of how they're going to fund the court system and expand prisons, because there's going to be a LOT more cases, and a LOT more inmates.
     
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    If they make laws that can fire ELECTED persons, I'm all for it. Perhaps we can fire any elected representative or senator that refuses to adequately uphold the constitution, lie to their constituents, or do some other illegal act. Throw in mayor's that influence legislation with large sums of money, and police chief's that engage in politics out side of their office.
     
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    Just because some wacko Rep introduced the bill doesn't mean it will pass. This has zero possibility of making it.
     
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    Sharrifs are elected officals, only way of removing them is by conviction of a felony by a court and jury or by a election. (Period) It sounds like this State Rep needs to read her own State's contitution. You can not fire an elected official, or BO would be gone in a heart beat.

    Jim
     
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    Sheriffs are elected officials, not hired. They must be recalled out of office, they cannot be fired by politicians.
     
  10. Coop45

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    A law like that will pass in Texas about the same time that the out house smells like lilacs. I put it in that context so the Okies could understand it.
     
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    If they are removing military officers that say they will refuse to order troops to fire on American civilians in a civil disturbance, how long to you think a county sheriff is gonna last?:scrutiny:
     
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    Thats totally different.
     
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    Kind of...

    An order to fire on American civilians could be interpreted as an "unlawful" order, and therefore we would have no obligation to follow it.

    Of course we answer to the uniformed chain of command up to the President. Sheriffs and other elected law enforcement answer to the people themselves.

    Overall...it is pretty pathetic to see a threatened liberal attempt to make it unlawful to disagree with them.
     
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    A prisoner has more rights then somebody in the military. You are too follow the orders from your superiors. If you don't then you are done. I wouldn't shoot at our people unless fired upon first. I will firmly accept being busted down for that.
    I think we all agree that that is add-on unconstitutional bill. It will never be a law.

    Justifying my means with their end.
     
  15. Texan Scott

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    She's an idiot. She couldn't get the votes to get it passed if it DID make it out of committee.

    That is, of course, beside the point. Texas sherrifs are elected officials. They can be voted out or prosecuted. They continue to serve as Sherrif even when under federal indictment; the Sherrif of Bandera Co. is under federal indictment for (among other things) drug charges. Even so, as an elected office holder, he remains Sherrif until PROVEN guilty by a court of law.
     
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    When courts fail, when courts become corrupt, it is up to the People to determine what is un-Constitutional. That is why we have the Second Amendment Rights.
     
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    She's a quack. We have three or four of them like that. They represent the very clueless "urban districts" in the major cities. I've met a few of them, and have testified in committee hearings before them. Given their behavior in the hearings, I don't have any respect for them. You think this bill is retarded, you guys should see some of the other stuff the quacks have proposed. Something like that would NEVER pass in the state of Texas, let alone even make it out of committee. This little group just wants some attention in the very small hope that Obama might call them up.
     
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    Exactly!
    County Sheriffs are elected by the People of the County, they can't be removed or fired by any Government, Local State or Federal like appointed chief LEO's, the only way they can be removed is at the Ballot Box when their Term ends, or if they are Convicted of a Crime by a Court of Law.
    The Case in Colorado that the OP is talking about is: some Pro Gun Sheriffs have been threatened by Anti, State Democratic Lawmakers with the holding up their Due Raises for their Stance, which could be construed as Extortion, which is a Crime!:mad:
     
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    Every individual has a right to exercise peaceful civil disobedience, even a sheriff.
     
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    I suppose it would depend on the state, but I believe most states would require constitutional amendments to do with the representative in Texas is trying to do.
     
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    It's the way they operate now but it was never in their powers. The states were to decide that.
     
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    Start a Bill that apply the same legislation on the individual Congress persons and see how fast this movement gets drop! :evil:

    When you figurer that it's Liberals/Progressives that are pushing this and they're in favor of "NOT!" enforcing the laws when it comes to; Illegals Aliens, Pot and a host of other things that society has deemed illegal I would say that we could actually fix this mess (like repealing any stupid gun ban) in Washington and the several states where these idiots reside if we apply the same to them!
     
  23. Trung Si

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    I agree!!!!!!!:D
     
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    Coop45 is right on...................chris3
     
  25. Trung Si

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    Unfortunately I know which three You are talking about, all are from gerrymandered Districts and all are like Peas in a Pod!:rolleyes:
     
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