Proselytizing among the bottom feeders

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by J-Bar, Oct 23, 2020.

  1. J-Bar

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    Yesterday I spent a late afternoon hour at an indoor range operated by a full service gun store. This was mainly to kill time, having completed my urgent honey-do chores for the day. I was kind of ambivalent about going to the range, not expecting much, no shooting issues in particular to work on. Just going to get out of the house, you know. To improve my chances for fun, I took two of my favorites, a S&W Model 14-4 .38 Special, and its kid brother, a Model 17-2 .22 LR (on top in the photo).

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    The 8-lane range was nearly empty. Two young men, twentyish, were clipping a fresh target to the cable operated target holder on Lane 4 as I went to Lane 8. I went through my usual routine of 20 rounds of .22 LR at 30 feet, Bullseye style, right handed, then another 20 rounds left handed. Which is always humbling but at least none hit the paper outside the scoring rings. My range companions were shooting 9 mm semi autos at a reasonable pace, not spraying as fast as possible, and making decent groups on targets 15 feet away. I repeated my right-handed/left-handed one-handed single action drill with the Model 14. Again, my groups proved I am right handed, but the left-handed group was not terribly embarrassing.

    As I started to pack up, one of the young men came up and said he had noticed me shooting with both hands and wondered why. I said it made me really focus on trigger control. Then he asked what revolver I was using. I took both guns out of my range bag and laid them side by side like in the photo (because I'm proud of them you know!) and we started talking about them. His companion joined us quickly. Neither had ever shot a revolver. "Would you like to shoot one," I asked. All 4 eyes brightened above their Covid masks (optional on the range-I was barefaced-such a rebel!). So I gave an orientation in how to open the crane properly, how to close the crane properly, how to avoid the barrel/cylinder gap, and then let them dry fire the Model 17 in both double and single action. All 4 eyebrows went up when they felt the Smith and Wesson single action trigger for the first time.

    Then, live fire. Each shot 3 rounds double action and three rounds single action, and geez I wish I had the eyes and nerves of a twenty-year old. Their groups could be covered by a nickel. Even at 15 feet, the distance they chose, I think that is pretty decent for handling a strange gun.

    They asked questions about where to find such revolvers, cost, etc. And then returned to finish shooting their bottom feeding semi autos as I left the range.

    As I left, I realized it had been a much better range session than I expected, and I was grinning as I went to my car. Their enthusiasm for my revolvers was more infectious than the Coronavirus. I expect there will be revolvers in a couple of new gun safes before very long.
     
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  2. Ru4real

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    Nice job educating and letting the young ‘uns learn. It may be that they learned guns on their own, which is why it was a first revolver experience. And good also for their self initiative!

    I laughed when I read how you described their S&W trigger reaction. I’ve seen that in people and it always makes me smile.

    In the best Crocodile Dundee impression...That’s not a trigger, THIS is a trigger.
     
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  3. UncleEd

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    The downside of revolver ownership, especially
    if considering Smith & Wesson and Ruger, is
    initial cost. Any quality revolver is usually
    priced higher than a polymer auto, particularly
    in 9mm. And 9mm when ammo is not scarce
    is usually a good bit cheaper than .38s or
    hotter or bigger calibers.

    But hopefully the two young men will follow a
    path of goodness, righteousness and honor
    and become avid revolver owners. But the
    stain of the bottom feeder may never leave
    them. :(
     
  4. MaxP

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    Nicely done!
     
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    Nothing is better than broadening the horizons of younger shooters. There are so many different shooting tools and disciplines out there, their being exposed to shooting revolvers with you has certainly piqued their interest. Hopefully you’ve brought a couple more revolver shooters into the fold.

    Nicely done! :thumbup:

    Stay safe.
     
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    You're a braver man than I, handing a finely blued S&W treasure to a neophyte.

    But one of my pedestrian, stainless Rugers- sure, have at it, kid. :D

    Seriously, though, nice work. I often offer to let responsible new shooters try a few of my weird/rare/old peices if they are interested. Garands are always a hoot for this! Just recently had a couple young veterans, freshly home from the sandbox, shoot the M1 full size and Carbine for the first time. I think they got a kick out of it. They offered to pay for the ammo, but I told them no way and thanked them for their service, was the least I could do.
     
  7. aarondhgraham

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    I really like your centerfire/rimfire pair,,,
    In actuality I collected those for quite a while.

    My personal favorite is my Model 15/Model 18 pair.

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    I have 12 other pairs of handguns,,,
    But never quite got to obtaining a 14/17 pair,,,
    I'm retiring in 69 days so I don't think I'll ever get them.

    So if you sense a strong smell of envy coming from my direction,,,
    It's real. :D

    Aarond

    P.S. Good on you for sharing your guns with those young men,,,
    You may have saved them from Semi-auto Perdition.

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    Good for you, J-Bar. :thumbup:
     
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  9. .38 Special

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    You know, twenty years ago this (young people being curious about yet completely ignorant of revolvers) wasn't an unusual occurrence in my neck of the woods. These days, though, even the young semi-auto hotshots tend to be familiar with revolvers, probably even owning a token example themselves. So whereas a few decades ago those fellows would look at me like I was performing some arcane ritual, now the same types are more likely to say "Oh, cool Model 19, man. Is that a dash three?"
     
  10. George P

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    Excellent! Took my new-to-me 17-2 to a new outdoor facility. The old guys (RSOs) knew what it was. The (younger than me but not some 20 year old female) taking lessons next to me didn't know what to make of it as she shot her HiPoint 380 and the instructor's SIG 320. 150 rounds later hitting steel, I had had enough and packed up. Those 17s are fun to shoot
     
  11. Riomouse911

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    I still run into far too many auto-only younger folks at my local indoor range, I wish they were exposed to more handguns outside of their circle. They're usually really pleasant, so if they show interest or ask I'll let them fire some shots through most of the revolvers I bring along. The vintage Colt Officer's Model Heavy Barrel is a me-only tool however...it's approaching 100 years old and the King sight, hammer spur and trigger/action modifications are true works of art! ;)

    Today I was thrilled to sweep up some .357 mag empties interspersed with 9mm casings from the two (late 50's/early 60's) guys shooting in the lane one over from me. I'm usually the rare one shucking revolver empties and dropping them into my backpack when shooting there.

    Stay safe!
     
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    Verily, you have shown the way of light and goodness to the wayward!
     
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    People who don't understand that the range experience is as much about social interaction (ie people being people) really just plain don't get it, do they?

    Good to hear some minds were enlightened, some hearts were warmed, and some faces were blessed with smiles. Oh, and also some paper targets were destroyed. ;)
     
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    Good for you J-Bar! Spread the gospel. I have found something like a 4" Model 15 with a mild wadcutter load will create fans of revolvers among those whose only handgun experience is with semi-auto pistols. I think there's a lot of younger folk out there too who enjoy the experience. This summer, a friend's 13 YO daughter and her girlfriend adopted my King Cobra of all the handguns (probably over 50 out there that day) as their favorite.
    So true; and it's always great to get converts to the gun community when taking folks out to shoot, who've never fired real guns before, and they find out that so much of the experience is the social aspect.
     
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  15. GooseGestapo

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    OP...
    I’ve Done that a lot of times.
    Humbled quite a few with my PPC revolvers.

    However, none of my Smiths have cranes!
    They have Yokes.....
     
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    Thanks, I stand corrected.

    :)


    Edit:

    ...although Numrich doesn’t care, as long as you buy!!

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  17. UncleEd

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    And I bet they don't have firing pins; they have nose pins.

    And do cranes ever lay yolks?
     
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    Nice going J-Bar, great experience for you and the two young men.
    I've had a similar experience twice at the range. Both times it was 20ish female shooters and they were being introduced to shooting semi-autos by significant others.
     
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    I have a decent S&W 10-7, not a mint one, but good - and a solid shooter. I've learned that if I don't bring it when we go shooting, and people know I have it, they will be dissapointed. A lot of people really want to shoot a revolver, even if they don't want to buck up and get their own. I found mine for less than 300, so - not like I broke the bank getting one. I'd get more of the same if I ever saw them for a similar price, but don't think that will happen any time soon. IMHO, anyone who likes to shoot, just cause it is enjoyable to shoot targets, really adds to that experience by having a revolver they like.
     
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  20. GooseGestapo

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    It’s actually a hammer nose. And Yoke, per Smith & Wesson.
    Colts have cranes. (And “jumping jack axxxs” on the grips).
    You do know I write in jest!?
     
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    You realize that your efforts are going to result in the prices of nice S&W revolvers going up, don't you? Good work! Thanks for your comradery and for posting.
     
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    Today I had my “cop guns” at the range. My Smith & Wesson models 10, 19 & 36. I was trying out some Federal 148 grain wadcutter loads that I bought recently. I liked the ammo. I was shooting left-handed as I am still healing up from Carpal Tunnel surgery a month ago. I didn’t do bad firing single action. We won’t discuss double action though.

    Anyway, while I was there a young man in his early teens was there with his family. He was standing back taking it all in and I noticed him looking at my revolvers on the bench. I asked him if he would like to shoot them and he kind of looked embarrassed and declined. I went back to shooting and a while later I noticed he was looking at the revolvers again. I motioned to him to come and try. He shook his head but this time he smiled and said no thanks instead of looking embarrassed. His Mom and Dad were taking turns with him shooting a .22 pistol.
    I am sure if I see him there again he’ll accept the offer to shoot a revolver or two. He has the bug now, I can tell.

    He kept looking at my model 19 on the right.
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    Why yes, yes they do. Usually in batches of 2-3.
     
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    Very well done J-Bar! I think it's great to spread the "Word", as you did, in getting others to shoot revolvers. And what could be better than letting a couple of young shooters try it with two of the best target sixguns ever made than the Model 17 and the Model 14! Keep up the Good Work!
     
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    Great job, they might pick up a nice revolver, and then they are hooked.


    I have a Model 14, but sadly no 17.
     
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