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Prudent or Paranoid?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by lizziedog1, Mar 31, 2011.

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  1. lizziedog1

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    Sometimes I read of threads here about folks that have several guns at the ready for the unthinkable. They might have an rifle, shotgun, and handgun ready for whatever might come through their doors in the middle of the night. I think some would even have an RPG ready if they could get away with it, Not only do they have all these guns ready, they have enough ammo nearby to arm a small army.

    I, on the other hand, have one gun stashed for emergenies. It is not the only gun I own, but the only one I have ready for a HD scenario. I hope I never have to use it.

    Am I fooling myself? Should I stash and have more firearms ready? Are the multi-gun folks being prudent, or are they paranoid?
     
  2. Ala Dan

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    To each his own, and think whatever you wish; thats human nature. But for me,
    having worked in law enforcement almost 21 years; I stay focused on possible
    unknown threats too me and my family, as there is just NO telling who, where,
    or when a threat may come~! Some of the people that I have personally had
    legitimate dealings with are murder'ers, rapist's, burglar's, and the like. They
    are being released from state prisons [for various reasons] all of the time. Also,
    they would think nothing of harming me or my family; at any given moment.
    That is why I keep several firearms "at the ready", in various locations. Also,
    I am now 64 years young, and not quite as quick as I once was; so I have to
    use a distraction method to my advantage too gain the surprise on said type
    of adversary~! ;) :) :D
     
  3. JohnBT

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    I also have more than one fire extinguisher.

    I back up my hard drives, too.

    John
     
  4. kingpin008

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    While there's certainly nothing wrong with having more than one firearm at the ready for emergency situations, you should also focus on other, arguable more important things like an adequate supply of food, water, medicines, and warm clothes. Firearms, while definitely useful in a catastrophic situation, are not your only concern.
     
  5. Creature

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    I think that John makes the point perfectly!
     
  6. Persev

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    I like to have a gun in each room I am going to be in simply because you never know where in the house you will be if something requiring you be armed were to happen.I know I would really hate to be standing in say,the kitchen,and need the gun that is in the bedroom.

    I think it is summed up by the old answer as to why we have guns..."I would rather have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it"
     
  7. HGUNHNTR

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    I cannot fathom a negative repercussion of being more prepared. So you have some extra ammo, another gun in the nightstand...could this possibly be a negative in any situation? The more preparedness you practice, the greater the odds you will end up with a favorable outcome should the need ever arise.
     
  8. Remo223

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    "I think some would even have an RPG ready if they could get away with it"

    Your tone is insulting. Are you sure you are on the right forum?
     
  9. JoeMal

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    Some say toe-may-toe, some say toe-mah-toe

    Some think it's paranoia, some think it's prepared

    I don't need to defend my thoughts or my actions to anyone
     
  10. 460Shooter

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    +1 to JohnBT. Nicely put.

    I keep two firearms in my home loaded and in easy reach. I have no kids to worry about, and my cats don't have thumbs to weild the loaded guns. I used to think it was paranoid, but then I realized a loaded gun in my bedroom would do me no good if I'm in my living room, and a home invasion situation occurs. I'd have to run past the intruder, dive across my bed, grab my gun, turn while on the bed, and shoot accurately. The chances of successfully accomplishing this seem slim to me. So I've decided to keep a gun in the two places in my home I am most likely to be in, if something bad were to happen. This just seems prudent to me given the, what appears to be (I have no stats to back it up), increase in home invasions. When I move into a bigger place and have more room, there may be a few more guns loaded and strategicaly placed around the home.

    I say to each his own. If you feel safe enough with one gun in your home, then be content with that. It is more important to have it readily accesible than to have 20 loaded guns sitting around. I've heard many people state that they have a gun on their person from the time they get out of bed, until they get back into bed at night. I'm guessing that many THR members fall into this category. I do carry concealed, but I don't keep a gun on my person while in my home. If I felt the need to do that, then I'd be thinking about moving the hell out of that area. I just keep one within easy and quick reach. JMO

    Oh yeah, I do stock my ammo reserves for a few select guns (namely the most practical and functional ones). I see no reason not to be prepared. With the condition of the world being what it is, and seemingly getting worse, I like to know I will be able to hunt and feed myself just in case there is an interuption in the availability of food. Nothing lasts forever, and I believe that applies to the American "fat cat" way of living as much as anything else. If it all comes crashing down, the gun owners are going to be the ones that can protect, feed themselves, and venture down to the river "safely" with their water filters and purifiers to stay hydrated. When it comes down to it, that's what a person needs to survive. Food, water, shelter, and a means to protect ourselves
     
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  11. Flfiremedic

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    I want immediate access to a weapon...home invasions happen in nice homes here...I owe it to my family to successfully defend my home and family. To that end, I have access to a defensive weapon at all times and under all conditions in my home...but they are part of a plan for my family to move-possiblly under fire to a true safe room...and the readily accessable handguns are there for use until I can get a long gun.
    In regards to that, what do you see hunters discussing on deer size (150-250 lb) game? "Bang Flop". In my professional experience, this is most likely achieved with a long gun. Just my opinion.
     
  12. Kleanbore

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    I did the same thing, for many years. Then I thought about it for the first time.

    Consider the layout of your home. Think about where you are likely to be at different times of the day and night; don't think that an emergency will only occur while you are in the bedroom. Consider the possible points of ingress for potential intruders. Then consider some scenarios.

    In each one, would you end up having a foot race with the intruder to get to where you keep the gun? If so, would you leave a loved one unprotected? Or might you be cut off from your gun? What kind of kettle of fish would you be in if that happened?

    That's one possibility. It wouldn't be a good one for me.

    Some time ago, one of the gun writers wrote that he kept revolvers in various places in his house. I started thinking about it for the first time. Then, a couple of years ago, someone posed the question about carrying while at home. My first reaction was one of utter disbelief. What kind of paranoia....

    Then I went through the thought process described above. For us, having one gun "stashed for emergencies" was not a prudent strategy. Having guns stashed here and there does not appeal to me. There was an obvious answer.
     
  13. BBQLS1

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    Why would I be paranoid, I have a gun.... :)



    People aren't paranoid because they have several guns at the ready. It might just make it easy to pick up a loaded one when you need one..... Nothing wrong with just having the one at the ready either.

    BTW, I'd have an RPG if I could. I'd love to see what it could do, but I'm not sure where I could shoot it.
     
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    Prudent vs. Paranoid. It is all in the eye of the beholder. Some may look and see prepared, others may see paranoid.

    If running convoys in Iraq (as well as a multitude of other things I did through out my career) taught me anything, it was anything can happen at any time. You've got to keep your head on a swivel and your eyes wide open. Now a lot of people will say 'of course, but that's over there. back home, you don't have to worry about those things.'
    I disagree. Being at home leads one into a false sense of security. I doubt a mortar is going to come falling through the roof, so I'm not sleeping under my body armor, but that doesn't mean I'm immune to robbery, drive by shootings, grudge holding idiots, road ragers, or anyone else. All one has to do is watch the evening news, pick up the local paper, and use their brains for something other than processing Dacing with the Stars, et al, and they will realize the world we live in is dangerous. I'd rather be viewed as paranoid and be prepared, than not be prepared and viewed in a coffin.
     
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    Paranoia is a state of mind. Two individuals could have the exact same set up and one could be prepared while the other is paranoid. I remember how shocked I was when I first heard someone on here state that they carry inside of their home. Then I thought about it and thought about my current set up and layout of my home. At the time I had in my bedroom closet one handgun in a safe and a shotgun ready to go. If I was in my living room when someone, or a group of people, kicked in my front door I would have to run past them, up the stairs, to the bedroom, open closet, and then open safe to get to said gun. :what:

    That is when I realized I had failed my family. I carry IWB and while I make it as comfortable as possible while I am out, I choose not to carry in the house. So instead I make sure that there is something available without having to cross avenues of possible danger. However that is my family, my home, and my state of mind. You just need to figure out what is the most prepared you can be and still feel safe with your family, in your home.

    Shawn
     
  16. TexasRifleman

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    That's pretty much how I explain it to people, well put. I have fire insurance, car insurance, and some self defense "insurance" too. What's the difference?

    In fact, in my lifetime I've needed quick access to a firearm more often than I've needed a fire extinguisher.
     
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    If you are affluent enough to keep multiple guns around with the same manual of arms, all the more power to you. For the rest of us, simply not taking the CCW off when at home may be the better answer.
     
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    It would be nice to have a loaded gun hidden in every room, but I would worry about a burglary while no one was there. You can't hide anything from a thief.
     
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    It would definitely be different if I lived with others, but since I live alone I put things where I want to. My apartment Is basically two really big squares with a hallway connecting them.

    The best option would technically be to carry at all times. But that's uncomfortable and unnecessary when in my own home. Therefore I have a shotgun leaned against my couch for living room and kitchen activities, and a handgun in my bedroom. Therefore I have a gun accessible anywhere except the bathroom.

    I don't know when someone will want to come into my house unwelcome. But if they did, and I only had a gun in my bedroom, I would literally be blocked by they're entrance and unable to get to it.

    So I think it depends on the situation. But yes, I would generally keep a loaded gun in every "section" of my house, not necessarily every room.

    P.S. I actually probably would like to get a cheap surplus CZ or something to keep in the cabinet in my bathroom. Again because of the set up of my house, I would have the inability to get to any other weapon in my house before confrontation with whomever was coming in. I don't feel myself paranoid, but I believe if I am going to have a gun to protect my self, It should always be accessible. Because I can't plan when or if any one will plan to assault my household.
     
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    I have a 3 three old son. Believe me, there are some very negative consequences to having another gun in the nightstand or anywhere else around the house that’s not secured in a safe.

    In my house all guns have to be locked up or under my direct control. It’s not just a matter of explaining to kids to stay away from the guns. That won’t work. I do explain about daddies guns but he’s 3, they don’t think like we do.

    I suppose I could buy multiple handgun safes and place those around the house but I haven’t felt the need yet. I’m also not at the point where I would carry around the house.

    It’s a risk/reward evaluation. I get home at 5:00. My son starts the bedtime process at 7-7:30, so I only have a little time to play with him. We roughhouse and play all over the house. I would never do that with a gun strapped to my waist. If I take it off temporarily it’s outside of my direct control and it would only take one time for him to get to it first. I usually tire long before he does.

    The risk of him hurting himself with a gun around the house is far greater than the risk of a home invasion at dinner time. I’m also not an ex-cop like the poster above. He has enemies I don’t. I live in a nice neighborhood, in a townhome, with neighbors on both sides. It would take some brazen home invaders to hit us.

    Should that all change maybe my strategy will as well.

    Am I right or wrong? Who knows, but I’ve made the decision I am comfortable with.

    As I said above, the other viable alternative is to put a handgun safe in the more popular rooms; expensive but doable.
     
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    I did keep loaded guns in several rooms in the past. Now I just move it with me from room to room. I thought about it an would hate for an unarmed person breaking into my house to suddenly become armed with one of MY weapons. I swear if somebody shot me with my own gun I would be SO pissed!


    Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.
     
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    "The best option would technically be to carry at all times."

    I do, it's a Rohrbaugh R9 and it never leaves my pocket. However, I like having something a bit larger for a backup gun. Currently it's an FNP-45 USG with 15-round mags. Well, and a couple of shotguns.

    Anyone here who has not read about the jewelry store heist here in Richmond years ago? Talk about being prepared with stashed guns.

    "Lead and diamonds: the Richmond jewelry store shootout - The Ayoob Files"

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_163_27/ai_99130342/

    "Baker had purchased eleven Rossi .38 Specials, five-shot snubbies, and laid them out at ten foot intervals behind the counters, invisible to the public but readily accessible to staff. All were loaded with Remington 125 grain semi-jacketed hollow points. " The store had a shotgun and a .44 Mag too.

    The crooks, experienced killers and bank robbers, etc...

    "Pappy unlimbers his double-barrel, 12 gauge sawed-off shotgun and Tom draws one of the two handguns tucked in his belt, a 1911 .45 auto. They roll ski masks down over their faces and burst through the door."
     
  23. hso

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    Probably not. If you live in a neighborhood bad enough to actually need all that you should probably be looking to spend that money moving to a new neighborhood or hardening your house to keep the goblins out.

    If you just want the hardware and feel the need to justify it for some reason it makes as good an excuse as any other.

    "Beware the man with one gun. ..."
     
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    Lighten up, Francis. If you've read some of the SHTF threads that have popped up here in the past, you'd see that there are indeed some individuals that are...over-exuberant, to say the least.
     
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    Right. Brazen home invaders with guns and duct tape. That's the point, and why I carry a gun in my pocket when at home, until I go to bed. Playing with little kids, mine or anyone else's - doesn't deter me from it - they're not going to get their grubby little hands on it.
     
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