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Prvi Partizan vs. Lithuanian vs. Igman for 7.62x51

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by cuervo, Feb 13, 2008.

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  1. cuervo

    cuervo Member

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    Has anyone shot both of these to compare them?

    I may have to bite the bullet and buy some .308 while prices are high, and wasn't sure which of these two is better.

    The Prvi Partizan and Igman are a little less expensive, but Ammoman is calling the Lithuanian "near match" if that really means anything.

    Assuming I reload someday, is one set of brass better?

    thanks
     
  2. gunnerh

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    I shot the Prvi Partizan in .308,.223,6.5 Swede and 6.5 Carano. It shot well and the brass is clean and reloaded well. The Igman in .223 worked well but was dirty. I have not shot any of the Lithuanian.
     
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  3. Dave R

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    Don't know these cartridges--but if reloadability is an issue for you, check to see whether the ammo is boxer primed or berdan primed. Boxer primed is reloadable. Berdan is not (unless you got special non-standard equipment.)

    MOST surplus is Berdan primed, and not reloadable. Exceptions exist (IVI and Hirtenberger, for example.) MOST commercial ammo is boxer primed and reloadable. Exceptions exist.
     
  4. fireflyfather

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    Prvi Partisan will be boxer primed. It's the same factory that makes Wolf Gold/Hotshot. The brass is perfectly reloadable. It is NOT surplus unless you buy it in a spam can with no brand name on the ammo boxes.
     
  5. AndyC

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    Igman is boxer-primed - so is the Prvi brass-cased ammo. I believe that Lithuanian is Boxer-primed as well, according to a friend who has some - he knows his ammo and was impressed with it.
     
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    "Near Match" means the same as "almost pregnant". The Lithuanian is good ammo, but that's just foolishness.

    All 3 are good shooting ammo and reloadable. Get the cheapest.
     
  7. TexasRifleman

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    From another post I made here, and the results of MUCH data gathering on this from lots of folks that shoot LOTS of 7.62x51


    The case to case deviation alone puts this in "near match" category. Bullet weight and MV comparisons are around as well, and they show similar quality and repeatability.

    This is THE best 7.62x51 ammo you will find for sale today, and unfortunately there probably won't be much more depending on how the elections go.

    It's not "match grade" but it's as close as you can buy on the market today, qualifying it I'd say for the term "near match"

    If you have DATA that rebukes this please post it. Otherwise I have to ask, how much of this ammo have YOU used?

    To the OP, if you reload the Lithuanian is the brass to have since Lake City is all but unobtainable.

     
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  8. Bazooka Joe71

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    I have yet to shoot any Igman, but I have shot Prvi and Lith, and I prefer the Lith as far as accuracy is concerned.



    BTW, you better watch what you say about Lith when Texasrifleman is around...He bites!:p
     
  9. jonnyc

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    I agree it shoots well. However...it is still military surplus ammo, and I put very little faith in any manufacturer's website tests. The term "near match" is too vague to have any real meaning. If it was the same price as the two other milsurp flavors I would get it. It isn't (for the time being), so it is not really worth it for me or most "non-match" shooters.
     
  10. TexasRifleman

    TexasRifleman Moderator Emeritus

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    Of the 3 ammo brands mentioned in this thread only one is "surplus" and that's the Igman. The PP is not even 7.62x51, it's .308 and the GGG is not surplus either.

    There's tons of testing that didn't come from anyone but shooters here in the US, none of the data I provided came from GGG.

    And as for the price, did you notice the brass measurements? The brass from GGG ammo is thicker than anything on the market so if you reload the small price difference per case of this is easily made up for in MUCH longer brass life. The fact that it will fit into a case gauge after firing, without resizing, the majority of the time is certainly an indicator of the thick brass.

    It is 2 cents a round more than the other 2 brands mentioned here, easily justified by the quality of the brass. Total price is so out of line it's crazy but all ammo is that way. The price delta is what's important, and it's only $20/1000 difference.

    The OP asked which to buy for reloading and the GGG is leaps and bounds ahead of the other 2 for its' brass.

    It's the best ammo around right now mainly for the brass. And if you're not saving .308/7.62 brass now, even if you don't reload, then you ARE crazy.
     
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  11. Cannonball888

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    I've heard from various sources that Portugese milsurp is the most accurate. Of course being that it is scarce.
     
  12. El Tejon

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    The Baltic ammo has been a great performer for me. I've been able to get the Lith ammo at $.20 a round recently.
     
  13. jonnyc

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    Where?!?!?!?
     
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    What he said!
     
  15. El Tejon

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    Indy 1500 gun shows. Next one is in March. Two brothers, younger guys, from Ohio. They always give me a break as I buy all they have.:)
     
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    That's one helluva break! I'd feel lucky to find it at twice that price.
     
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    Never be afraid to ask, buy all they have and pay cash.:)

    Of course, it pays to be lucky too. I hit on some RSA .308 ammo at a Lafayette show for .10 last year. I don't expect to repeat that one.
     
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    Does $475+shipping/1000 sound about right for Lith. 308? It will be $510 delivered.
     
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  19. Soybomb

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    I'd go further and say that it sounds like a better than usual price.
     
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    All three are boxer primed, and are the three best sources of 7.62x51 at the moment in terms of quality. The brass on the lithiuanian stuff is a little softer to me when reloading for my G3. Personally i'd go with Igman, just for personal prefrence. Igman and Privi are at least on par with Lake City in my book.
     
  21. Magnuumpwr

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    Here is the info on the Lith. 308 @ $475/1000rds.
     
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    Here's another one:

    http://www.ammoman.com/webstore_308.htm

    LITHUANIAN 762x51 AMMUNITION - 146 GRAIN
    FULL METAL JACKET - MILITARY GRADE - FULL NATO SPECS.
    BOXER PRIMED, NON-CORROSIVE and RELOADABLE
    2003 / 04 PPRODUCTION

    COMES IN SEALED MILITARY BATTLE PACKS - BRIGHT & SHINY
    EXTREMELY ACCURATE - NEAR MATCH GRADE
    NOT EASILY AVAILABLE AT THIS QUANTITY IN THE U.S.

    1,000 ROUND CASE SHIPS IN THE FACTORY WOOD CRATE
    FULL CRATE IS 60 POUNDS AND SHIPS FREE

    CASH PICK UP PRICE
    $465-CRATE OF 1,000 OUT THE DOOR

    FREE SHIPPING

    Part Number #762-146GR-LITHU-500, -1000, -5000
     
  24. Magnuumpwr

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    But the shipping price is $520. Here is their phone number at AmmoWorks Phone: 1-888-535-AMMO(2666)
     
  25. stubbicatt

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    Anybody know whether the Lithuanian ammo has a tar sealant? My rifle hates that stuff.
     
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