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  1. vaalpens

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    American Reloading has another 25% discount going for 9mm/380 projectiles. Not everybody likes to deal with pulled bullets since you need to verify/weigh each one of them, but I have ordered 500 of the 124gr Gold Dot bullets for $44.99 less 25% and no shipping = $33.74. They also have some HST's for a little bit more, but I decided to go with the Gold Dots since I can actually purchase them new if I like them.

    I will follow up with some test results once I have received the bullets.
     
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    I've bought a lot of projectiles from American Reloading. They ship quickly. Their descriptions of what you will get are generally very accurate. I've always gotten more bullets than advertised. There's always one or two bullets in the order that is terribly mis-shapen. I think they intentionally throw a couple in so that you know you're getting pulled bullets, but the overage always covers it. On the whole, I'm always impressed at the quality and condition of what I get.

    And yes, even when your order includes only bullets of the same weight, you still need to sort them manually since they may have come from different manufacturers and be visibly different. In my mind, that's what rainy Sunday afternoons are for. And I think it's a small price to pay to get jacketed bullets for (depending on the quantity and the sale) as little as 6 cents each.
     
  3. 2011redrider

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    Havent orred from them in about a year or so ago.. Only hadone batch of plated 45's that eere undersized @ .448. They replaced them with fmj. Had to call to get thru as they didnt answer emails back then. Moved on to casting so I havent bought any more.
     
  4. vaalpens

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    I have been lucky with their bullets so far. I try to stick to the jacketed bullets since plated bullets seems to be undersized. This will be the first time ordering Gold Dots, so I will have to check the diameter and setback to see if they can be used in 357sig after being pulled.
     
  5. Average Joe

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    American Reloading , the only place I buy projectiles from. Great prices, free shipping.
     
  6. Sauer Grapes

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    I've bought pulled bullets from RMR. Never an issue with pulled. I'll have to check out American Reloading next time. Been very happy with RMR though.
     
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    Is there a discount code for the 25%
     
  8. vaalpens

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    If you go to the site https://americanreloading.com/en/ I see they still show the discount code of 25% "cold25".

    I bought some plated and jacketed bullets from them and has been happy with what I received so far. My experience with plated bullets I have loaded and pulled showed that plated bullets always decrease a bit in diameter, so I try and stay away from buying pulled plated bullets. The jacketed bullets I have received seems good, with just a few of the I couldn't load.
     
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    Its on the home page of their site and thecheckout page, cold25 for 9, 380, 223 and 243 projectiles. Cold15 for 9 and 223 brass.
     
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    Thanks!
    Might try to pick up some Gold Dots.
    (I do have 3000 RMR MPRs sitting in my shed, but it sounds like a good deal on them)
    Gold Dots are plated however, so I wounder how they are after being seated and pulled. Price is right.
     
  11. vaalpens

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    Their pictures normally is a good reflection of the actual product and I did not see any pull or crimp marks on them. They are some sort of plated but should hold up to high velocities. All the good bullets are gone now.
     
  12. NoirFan

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    @vaalpens Thanks for the heads up on a great deal! I don't have a 9mm pistol but I do load for 38 spl and $30 shipped for 500 jacketed bullets is too good a deal to pass up. I'm going to see how these load in 38 - should be good for casual plinking rounds.
     
  13. vaalpens

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    I received the pulled Gold Dot bullets this week. Shipping was slow, but I could see through tracking that the issue was with the USPS.

    The bullets is what I expected based on the pictures posted by American reloading. They were tarnished with something black on them. I weighed all the bullets and everyone were around 124gr. Some of them came out to over 125gr, and when I inspected them I could see that the HP cavity was filled with the same black stuff mixed with media or dirt or something.

    I decided to put the bullets into the tumbler for a few hours, just to clean up most of the dirt. I then went through the bullets and picked out the dirt stuck in the cavity. There were probably about 5% I had to clean out, and maybe some of them was from my tumbler.

    A selection of the bullets were also measured and it seems that the bullets retained a good .3555" or .356" diameter, which is good. Based on the profile and length, I'm not sure if they will work in 357sig since I will have to load them with a 1.15" COL. I have used this COL before, but I will have to put a few dummy rounds through my setback test to make sure they will work.

    Overall I think these bullets look great for the price and should load fine in 9mm.

    Following are a few pictures of the bullets after I cleaned them up.
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  14. JimKirk

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    Vaalpens ... I am watching this post ... I need find a good source for economical "Good"" bullets . ...
    I wonder if these are the same Gold Dots that they offered for the SIG .... If so ...I shot a few hundred back when I was experiencing with the 357 SIG when I first got mine .... they shot really well ... their price and not being easy to find pushed me to the Hornady XTP... which I could get without any problem and being cheaper also ....

    Post some photos when you load a few of these ... I will order some of these if they are a "go" for you and the SIG...
     
  15. vaalpens

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    JimKirk, I can't think that these are the same since the 357sig ammo shows a 125gr bullet, where 9mm shows a 124gr bullet. These are 124gr bullets and will be a tight fit in the 357sig. I am definitely going to try them out and will report back. I have not done my setback test with it yet, but with the profile I see it seems it will have to be loaded with a 1.15" COL, or even maybe a bit longer.
     
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    I've ordered thousands of projectiles from American Reloading. I know going in that they are pulled bullets and will require some work on my part checking them before I launch into reloading them. Know that, I have been satisfied with everything I have ordered and tickled pink more than once. They have been good enough consistently that I now have my orders shipped directly to the family farm in care of my father even though I may not see what arrives until months later.
     
  17. GarrettJ

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    Just saw this. The "cold25" code does not appear to be working any more.

    Still, good pricing nonetheless.
     
  18. JimKirk

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    Vaalpens ... I believe you are correct about the "125" . ... I am reasonably certain that is why I quit pursuing them ... they were almost impossible to find at that time ...
     
  19. hdwhit

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    No, it's not. The OP was two weeks ago and when American Reloading runs a promotion like that it is usually only good for a few days to a week.

    The good news is American Reloading has fairly high turnover of its inventory and because a lot of their stuff is from pulled down ammunition, it changes with how good the manufacturers are staying within specification, so promotions appear on a fairly regular basis.

    Sign up for their e-mail alerts and you'll know when they have one you are interested in.
     
  20. bullseye308

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    2 years ago I got 1000 357 cases from them for $80 shipped, and a few thousand of the 9mm gold dots too. The brass was great and I’m just finishing up the last few hundred gold dots in my 9’s.

    I get mine now from RMR and won’t cheat on them, but my dealings with American reloading were definitely positive.
     
  21. vaalpens

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    I finally made time to test my first loads using the pulled Speer GDHP bullets. These bullets are pulled so I didn't expect super accuracy, but was hoping for reasonably good accuracy. The standard COL for these bullets in 9mm is 1.120", but I decided to load them to 1.100" to closer resemble some of my other tested loads. I started with PowerPistol, since it is a powder I like in 9mm, and I normally see two different accurate loads for a specific bullet, at around 5.3gr and 5.6gr. I think these pulled bullets performed very well, and was consistently accurate towards the higher charges. I will probably go a bit higher with the charge just to see if there is any drop-off in the accuracy. Following are the results from the testing:

    9mm, SP2022, 3.9"
    Case: WCC
    COL: 1.100"
    Speer, 124gr, GDHP, PowerPistol, 5.1gr, WSP
    Average: 988
    ES: 24
    SD: 9.4
    Force: 269
    PF: 122
    Velocities: 992, 992, 996, 988, 972
    Grouping @ 15yd: 1.73"
    Test Date: 02/11/2018

    9mm, SP2022, 3.9"
    Case: WCC
    COL: 1.100"
    Speer, 124gr, GDHP, PowerPistol, 5.2gr, WSP
    Average: 993
    ES: 13
    SD: 5.6
    Force: 271
    PF: 123
    Velocities: 999, 989, 986, 993, 998
    Grouping @ 15yd: 1.04"
    Test Date: 02/11/2018

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    9mm, SP2022, 3.9"
    Case: WCC
    COL: 1.100"
    Speer, 124gr, GDHP, PowerPistol, 5.3gr, WSP
    Average: 1014
    ES: 28
    SD: 11.5
    Force: 283
    PF: 125
    Velocities: 1018, 1023, 1011, 996, 1024
    Grouping @ 15yd: 0.84"
    Test Date: 02/11/2018

    9mm, SP2022, 3.9"
    Case: WCC
    COL: 1.100"
    Speer, 124gr, GDHP, PowerPistol, 5.4gr, WSP
    Average: 1027
    ES: 36
    SD: 13.7
    Force: 290
    PF: 127
    Velocities: 1024, 1045, 1036, 1023, 1009
    Grouping @ 15yd: 1.31"
    Test Date: 02/11/2018

    9mm, SP2022, 3.9"
    Case: WCC
    COL: 1.100"
    Speer, 124gr, GDHP, PowerPistol, 5.5gr, WSP
    Average: 1032
    ES: 43
    SD: 18.6
    Force: 293
    PF: 127
    Velocities: 1018, 1018, 1023, 1061, 1040
    Grouping @ 15yd: 1.05"
    Test Date: 02/11/2018

    9mm, SP2022, 3.9"
    Case: WCC
    COL: 1.100"
    Speer, 124gr, GDHP, PowerPistol, 5.6gr, WSP
    Average: 1050
    ES: 21
    SD: 10.2
    Force: 304
    PF: 130
    Velocities: 1054, 1039, 1060, 1059, 1040
    Grouping @ 15yd: 1.24"
    Test Date: 02/11/2018


    The next powder I will work up some loads with will be BE-86. With BE-86 I normally try to get to SD velocities since BE-86 is well suited for it due to the flash suppressant. My target loads will be from 5.2gr to 5.7gr initially, and then I will reevaluate to see if I want to go higher. From the testing data I have seen with GDHP is that 9mm comes in at 1150fps and 9mm+p at 1220fps from a 4" barrel.
     
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  22. eo1bart

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    vaalpens, Last weekend I tested some pulled 124gr Gold Dots from American Reloading with BE-86

    9mm, Beretta 92A1
    COL: 1.12
    Powder: BE-86

    5.4gr Average fps: 1125 SD:14
    5.6gr Average fps: 1160 SD:14.5
    5.8gr Average fps: 1190 SD:14.1
     
  23. vaalpens

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    eo1bart, thanks for sharing your load information. My targeted velocity will be lower that what you tested with your 1" longer barrel. Did you identify an accurate load, or did they all perform about the same?
     
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    the best group was with 5.8gr
     
  25. Walkalong

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    I used some factory new 124 Gr Gold Dots to test before loading up pulled ones from RMR awhile back.

    124 Gr Gold Dot
    WSP primer
    Mixed brass
    1.120 to 1.125 OAL

    5.5 Grs Silhouette - 102 Degrees, 24% RH - June 2012

    3" EMP = 996 Avg FPS
    5" S&W Pro = 1130 Avg FPS
    16" AR = 1210 Avg FPS

    5.7 Grs Silhouette 102 Degrees 38% RH - June 2012

    3" EMP = 1064 Avg FPS
    5" S&W Pro = 1202 Avg FPS
    16" AR = 1263 Avg FPS

    5.6 Grs N340 104 Degrees 35% RH - June 2012

    3" EMP = 1089 Avg FPS
    5" S&W Pro = 1212 Avg FPS
    16" AR = 1308 Avg FPS

    5.7 Grs N340 66 Degrees 35% RH - November 2012

    3" EMP = 1099 Avg FPS
    5" S&W Pro = 1232 Avg FPS
    16" AR = 1319 Avg FPS

    I did 5.8 Grs N-340, but it is too much.

    No targets.

    5.7 Grs of N340 is a keeper, work up to it. 5.7 grs Silhouette was very accurate but had high ES & SD numbers for whatever reason.

    Did I mention it can get hot here? :)
     
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