Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by herkyguy, May 23, 2014.
But you must disclose in TX. If you don't ,they still let you off! That's a Texas thingee!
None of that has a single thing to do with showing my CPL and telling them about my gun or not. For example, my last traffic stop:
Cruising in my convertible, top down, back road, cruise set at 52. Passed the sign dropping the speed limit to 40 before a curve right before a country store where Mr. Deputy likes to clock people coming around the curve. Since I forgot about the speed limit change, as soon as I saw Mr. Deputy at the grocery store I knew he had me.
As I went past him, I saw him u-turning. There's a private road a couple hundred yards past the store, so I turned on my hazard flashers and pulled onto the private road, off the main and busy road, stopped and waited. He didn't even turn on his lights until he was almost stopped behind me.
Had my driver's license in hand, folder with insurance and registration in my lap. He comes up to my door and we exchange hellos. I said, "I had the cruise control set and forgot to reset it at the speed limit sign." I gave him my driver's license, insurance, and registration. He said, "I'll check these out and you can be on your way."
Came back, handed me my paperwork, he said, "Just don't forget about the speed limit change again." We said polite goodbyes, and that was it. Not a word about my gun or my CPL by either one of us, no chip on the shoulder, no attitude.
I don't know if the officer that has me stopped is going to get a bee up his rear about a gun or not - and there is absolutely no reason for me to be the one to "ask him" by telling him about my gun when I am not required to, when it has absolutely no relevance to the reason he has detained me, and when it won't do a single thing to make him any safer or go home at the end of his shift.
It is possible to be completely courteous and professional without disclosing the gun or the permit.
I think they were teaching what's in the best interest of the class, not what's best for the LEO.
They also said that if you are even involved in a shooting to give the LEO your name and tell them what the bad guy did. Then ask for an attorney. Don't go into the whole story about what you did until you have an attorney. Same as the cops do - wait for the union rep and legal council.
I thought they were great teachers and it all makes sense.
We have a duty to inform here in Texas. I haven't had any LEO contact since getting my CHL 6 years ago, but I've been advised that the best way to inform is to simply pass the officer your CHL along with your DL if you're ever stopped and then everything is covered.
Post #56; traffic stops...
I take issue with post #56.
Most sworn US law enforcement officers who do traffic details or patrol are dedicated & honest but a few are not honest, fair or professional.
I had a incident in 2012 that serves as a example(I later contacted the PD's internal affairs office).
I've also seen officers who deliberately shine white lights into occupants faces to distort their vision.
I used to get Law & Order, the US law enforcement trade magazine. An issue I recall(by a female state police captain) advised sworn personnel to lie & "apologize" for issuing a traffic ticket.
Some troopers(like the OK trooper & EMT event) or officers really lose their cool & act in a unprofessional way.
Youtube.com is filled with LE camera scenes where a cop goes berserk.
As for armed citizens, Id be honest, speak slowly & clearly(the cop will also reply in a slower, calmer tone).
A patrol deputy & US Navy veteran I worked with briefly after a major storm told how he'd do stops on uniformed, armed guards or armed citizens who would say very plainly they were unarmed!
How does any of that relate to post #56? I fail to see the connection you are trying to make
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