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  1. thefish

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    I've been carrying on and off for about a year or so. Managed to get pulled over by the local sherif yesterday for driving a little too fast. Handed him my dl and chl as soon as he came up to the car. Didnt mention I was armed or where, ( 4 oclock IWB). figured he would ask if he wanted to know. He quickly glanced at them, asked for reg and insurance. Handed me back the chl and said " I don't need that". Went to his car, ran my stuff and came back a short while later. Gave me a written warning and said have a nice day. And of course to slow down.

    From some of the stories I've heard, I was expecting a little more drama but it was completely stress free.
     
  2. USAF_Vet

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    I admit, I have a bit of a lead foot myself. I've been pulled over by state, county and local cops and none of them made an issue of my carrying. I live in a must inform state, too.

    I've still never gotten a ticket.
     
  3. Somewhere in NM

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    The one time I was stopped, I handed my DL with my CHL (not required to notify here). He thanked me twice for letting me know and gave me a warning. He was very professional, as I have found 80-90% of officers to be.
     
  4. Outlaw Man

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    That's been my (thankfully) limited experience, as well.

    Except for that time in "Mayberry" when I got pulled over in a brand new car for not having tags, and I didn't show them my CHL (technically not required here). When the dispatcher came back that I had one (I could hear her well), they did the "go to each side of the car with hands on guns" thing. I think one of them was still in training. He seemed really young.
     
  5. 460Shooter

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    The last time I got pulled over was in Wyoming. I informed him I needed to move my revolver to get my insurance card out of the center console. I offered to show him my permit but he just chuckled and said "Nope, this is Wyoming." All I said was "oh yeah, I forgot".

    I did get a ticket. Bummer
     
  6. NavyLCDR

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    Which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. They find out information from a government agency that you have submitted fingerprints and submitted to a background check (above and beyond what most Joe Citizens do), and have no criminal record and that causes them to "go to each side of the car with hands on guns"? Wow.

    I used to have a lead foot too and have been stopped at least 6 times while carrying a firearm. I never mentioned my CPL or firearm (not required to), the officer never mentioned my CPL or my firearm, I averaged about 50% warnings v. tickets, never had a negative encounter. We were both polite and professional during all the encounters.

    The ultimate answer was for me to pay attention to the speed limit and slow down.
     
  7. Robert

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    What county are you in? Of late all of our county sheriffs are banding together when it comes to gun rights, and from my experience most of the deputies are very progun.
     
  8. Lex Luthier

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    I believe there are enough LEOs who want more regular law abiding citizens to carry than not.
     
  9. 19-3Ben

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    In much of the country, yes. Here in CT they have drunk the koolaid. The ones with whom I have spoken are all either of the opinion that "only we the LEOs need guns, because we protect you peons" or at best they are apathetic about non-LEO ownership of firearms. I have come across very few who support it.
     
  10. DoubleMag

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    Sounded like a picture-perfect stop. Including no lightening of your wallet:eek:

    Outside of a flagrant violation such as, obvious felony stop, going 90 in a 55,etc, I've found about 90% + of what happens is directly caused by the drivers ATTITUDE.
     
  11. ny32182

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    I've been stopped probably 6 or 7 times with a gun either on me or in the glove box with the registration. I'm also in a must-inform state and am bordered by must-inform states.

    All but once it has been totally ignored by the cop... one time, I got a "step out of the car, while I unload your gun" routine. All I will say is that it doesn't improve anyone's safety to be standing there while a cop monkeys with a loaded gun he may or may not be familiar with, behind your back. In my case it was a Glock, and all the cops around here carry Glocks so, probably not an issue. But if I carried a fancy-pants pistol of any type... who knows.

    For this reason I don't like the "require to inform" laws. If I was a bad guy intent on shooting the police, I wouldn't be "informing" anyway, so the whole concept is fairly asinine if you ask me. That said, in my experience, at least in the southeast, the vast majority seem to handle it the right way.
     
  12. WALKERs210

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    State Trooper License check

    From time to time the Alabama State Troopers will setup a road block checking for license and insurance plus what ever else is on their mind. Only issue I have ever had was when a young trooper was checking my info he looked in the back seat of my truck. He was calling all the other officers over to look at my collection of black powder rifles, pistols and other stuff. Heck thought they wanted to spend time shooting rather than doing their job.
     
  13. Galactic Marine

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    Quite a few years ago and not long after this state got concealed carry I was in a minor fender bender. I handed the officer my Driver License and CHL because I didn't want to say anything in front of the other driver about my gun. The officer gave me a quick, intense look then proceeded to ask about what happened.

    Afterwards, when I was sitting in my truck the officer came over and gave me a ticket for failure to yield. He then said something about how different it is to carry a gun. I replied, "Yeah, it sure is heavy!":eek:

    Yes, I'm an idiot. I realized immediately after that he meant the responsibility of being able to use lethal force.
     
  14. NavyLCDR

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    However, having read several gun forums for several years I have read many, many more stories of people being treated poorly by police after they tell them about their permit/license and gun than I have read stories of people being treated poorly by police who discover the gun temselves. That would indicate to me that you have much greater chance of not being hassled by keeping quiet about your gun and permit when allowed to do so by law.
     
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  15. CAPTAIN MIKE

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    ..a simple suggestion

    Good outcome. My protocol: (1) Pull over and open all windows; (2) At night turn on interior lights; (3) Put the keys on the dash (shows him or her I'm not going to run); (4) "Yes Sir, Yes Ma'am"; (5) Hands @ 10 & 2 on the steering wheel; (6) I keep my CCW, Driver's License, Insurance Card & Registration Card in the visor above my head when driving so I don;t have to 'reach around' past my sidearm and get my wallet out of my back pocket. Whether or not it is 'required to inform' the officer, I ALWAYS tell them politely that my 'Sidearm' (not using the word 'gun' or 'weapon') is on my right hip while keeping my hands at 10 & 2 on the steering wheel. My experience - warnings and a polite "Have a Nice Day" and I'm back on road.
     
  16. Caliper_Mi

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    Because most people don't do online to post good experiences about being pulled over. I'd wager that much closer to 100% of people will be posting their experience and/or retaining a lawyer after some of the bad treatment episodes out there.
     
  17. RedBowTies88

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    As a general rule I like to think that it's always better to keep my business to myself and not divulge the fact that I'm carrying unless the law states that I have to.

    However as car enthusiast and amateur racer I do see my fair share of cherrys and blues. I've come to find that in rural area's most times showing your CHL will help your cause for not getting a ticket because the officers are generally grateful for you having let them know.

    However in other places like Philly I learned very quickly not to show them. Not all but a good percentage of officers there believe they're the only ones who should be allowed to carry. I was stopped by a bike cop on south street only a few weeks after getting my CHL for tinted windows (which I'm legally allowed to have) and after giving him my CHL his demeanor went from bad to much worse. He was almost disgusted and made sure that I knew why. Had I been doing anything illegal I'm 100% sure he would of wrote me for it.
     
  18. X-Rap

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    I try hard to keep up with the carry laws in the jurisdictions in which I travel and follow them. Very little good comes from causing anymore drama than necessary. Keep your paperwork separate of your gun and inform as needed.
     
  19. Arkansas Paul

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    The law enforcement profession is like any other. There may be a few bad apples here and there but the VAST majority are stand up guys, doing a job for way less money than they deserve.
     
  20. NavyLCDR

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    What I was trying to say, though, was that I have read a lot more stories of people being treated badly by police after they disclosed their permit and gun to them than I have read of people being treated badly by police when they just kept quiet about it. So, it would seem to me that you have less of a chance of being treated badly by not mentioning the gun or permit when you are not required to by law.

    I do the following things:

    1. Turn on hazard lights when the officer lights his lights to indicate that I see them.
    2. Retrieve my driver's license from my wallet, and the folder with my registration from the glove box.
    3. Seek a place off the busy street to pull over such as a side street, parking lot, turnout spot.
    4. Turn off the engine and radio.
    5. Turn on interior lights if at night.
    6. Roll driver's side window all the way down.
    7. Left hand rests on window sill with driver's license in hand - folder with other documents is on my lap. Right hand on steering wheel.
    8. Greet the officer pleasantly and offer pleasantries during initial contact.
    9. Remain polite and professional during entire encounter.

    If that isn't enough to contribute to the officer going home safe at the end of shift and "put them at ease", then handing him a permit that he doesn't know is valid or not without checking and telling him about my gun that is safe and secure in it's holster isn't going to add anything. I have never had a police officer, during a traffic stop, treat me in any way other than politely and professionally.

    I won't use what I had to do to satisfy the government in order to exercise my right to self defense as a bargaining chip to help me get out of the ticket I likely deserve to get anyway.
     
  21. 12131

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    Of course, I have no way of proving it, but my thinking is this.
    If you get stopped by an anti-gun cop, you will more than likely get a ticket.
    If you get stopped by a pro-gun cop, you'll probably get a warning more often than not.
     
  22. ozarkgunner

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    Depend on your area. I'm in Missouri, don't have to inform unless asked. The few rimes I've been pulled over its never been an issue, they have never asked if I was armed. Only time it came up was when officer asked if I was going to renew, I said yes, he said "right on"! And no ticket for speeding. They must like my truck, been pulled over 4 or 5 times, never a ticket. Or maybe a respectively. For civi's that carry. Could be, any thoughts on that'
     
  23. SimplyChad

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    If El paso city police pull you over with your CHL you are in for a bad time.
     
  24. bil

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    I just saw an article in the newspaper (Tampa Tribune) which explained the sheriff's associations of all 50 states(!) had sent a letter to the Congress and the White House asking them to quit taking money from and listening to NYC's mayor and his organization (Mayors Against Illegal Guns). As if anybody would be for illegal guns. I'm a proud member of JPFO (Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership), and wear my bumper sticker "Gun Control Is Not Kosher" with American Pride.
    Each time I've been stopped lately (just a couple) I informed the officer that I was armed, was asked if I had a CWL, and that was it. Got warnings both times.
    Lord, let it keep up. We'd be in bad trouble if the sheriffs were against us. Bad trouble.
    Bil
     
  25. cambeul41

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    On the other hand, I look at it as a chance to show that I have passed a background check and am not a bad guy.
     
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