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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by cchris, Jul 28, 2009.

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  1. cchris

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    Okay, so I'm going to check out a few guns, I mostly want a pistol. Here's the options, all of them are used...

    Rock Island 1911, .45 for $350
    CZ-82, 9x18 (from jgsales.com) for around $240 (including shipping & fees)
    SIG P6, 9mm Luger for $375
    Chinese SKS, 7.62x39 for $350

    I know the SKS isn't a pistol, but it's in the price range I can afford. I'm going to look at the P6 tomorrow, but the good part is that I'm the first person in a week to even contact the guy, he figured there was something wrong with the ad, and wasn't even sure what the price he asked was. I don't want to seem too eager, but I've got a good amount of 9x19, so it seems okay.

    So what do you all think of those prices, what's a bargain and what's a ripoff?
     
  2. Tennessee Ned

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    I'm no expert but from what you've listed I like the Sig the best. I do own one Sig and it's the finest gun that I own.
     
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    I can't comment on anything except for the Sig P6. I have one and love it. Best of luck on your decision!
     
  4. cchris

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    Thanks all, I personally like the P6's quite a lot, so far it's the only one I've made plans to look at. I know with all the help around here, whatever's wrong with it, I can probably find a fix for.
     
  5. Dr_2_B

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    For that price, the SIG is hard to beat. I ordered a set of wooden grips. This pic is awful, but you get the picture.

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    Sig P6.

    But keep in mind that the change in the slope of the feed ramp (from 52 degrees to 54 degrees) of the P6's was made on June 14, 1989 and the P6's made after that date functioned very well with jhp's, while those before the changeover were often iffy with jhp's.

    If you only shoot fmj's you don't care, but if you have a choice I would recommend you TRY and get a P6 manufactured after June 14, 1989.

    I don't have a P6, but when considering purchasing one I did some research last year when they hit the market, and with the exception of the older guns being iffy w/jhp's everything else I read was positive.

    I could be wrong, and perhaps a P6 owner will step in and correct me, but if I were in the market for a P6 I'd want that sucker to shoot jhp's reliably.

    Sigs are great guns.

    Best Wishes,

    Jesse
     
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    I have a P6 (love it), and can't really comment on your other selections. I don't know about the feed ramp angles, but I haven't had any trouble with the JHP's I've fed it. All the P6's I've seen have the date (MO/YR) stamped on the slide. Mine's 11/80. There's only been one malfunction since I have owned this gun, a failure to feed while my wife was shooting it. I don't know what caused it. She has a tendency to limp-wrist guns, but it was also with cheap reloads (ball ammo). Never malfunctioned before or after. Sweet shooting gun, though the DA trigger pull is a bit stiff. I don't know how much you've shopped around for the P6, but the prices are all over the place. $375 sounds pretty good, if that includes tax, but I've seen some for as low as $300 (depending on condition too). If you go with the P6, make sure you get two magazines!
     
  9. Ala Dan

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    Another vote for the SIG P6~! ;) :D :uhoh:
     
  10. Papaster

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    Dr 2 B, those wood grips look great!
     
  11. DeepSouth

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    I try not to buy used auto's, I have sold to many because they didn't function properly and I just always figure I was very likely buying someone else's jam-o-matic.

    From that list I would personally go with the 1911 because I am familiar enough with the design that I would probably feel comfortable fixing it myself if need be. If it wasn't for that I'd go with the Sig, and hope it didn't have any problems.
     
  12. PX15

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    cchris:

    Here's another suggestion.

    Every consider the Stoeger (a company I believe owned by Beretta?) Cougar 8000?

    From all I read this is a fine pistol, and every gun shop I've been in recently as one or two in the sales cases for around $425.00 or so.

    This would be a new gun, relatively modern technology and has a fine reputation from folks who have them.

    I hate Beretta in general because of a nightmare experience I had with Beretta CS years ago, and at that time I swore off Beretta products forever, but I really like the Stoeger Cougar from all I have read about it, so maybe I can buy one and still feel like I've been true to my pledge against Beretta? :rolleyes:

    I'd just hate to pay almost $400 for a used gun when I can get a new gun, and a very good one at that for a little more.

    Just another option.

    Best Wishes,

    Jesse
     
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    I love the 1911 platform, if it's a Colt!

    Of that list I would choose the P6

    If you have a stock of 9mm and you are leaning that way it would seem a logical pick.

    The P6 has a solid reputation I would trust.
     
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    I hate to just be . . . .

    a ditto. But I own 2 p-6's and am buying a Stoeger Cougar this week. For the under $400 price range, these are fantastic weapons.
     
  15. cchris

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    Well, I picked up the P6 today without a bit of trouble. I took out $350 and the guy said "I'll take it." He's an officer and has gotten so used to Glocks that he prefers them. He bought it recently and shot a box of FMJ ammo through it, it did fine. But it didn't like JHP's, and as well he got it for his wife and it didn't fit her well.

    I don't plan to shoot anything but FMJ through it, and I love the DA/SA, and this gun is in much better condition that I expected. The guy advertised it as being very worn down, but I can barely see any shiny metal on the thing. Just a couple tiny scratches. It only came with 1 mag, but the spring is strong on it.

    I'm going out to shoot it this weekend (hopefully), and I can already see just from dry firing that I don't "jerk" it as much as the Sigma.
     
  16. 10-Ring

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    If I were to buy a SIG -- the P6 is the one I would hunt down!
     
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    Hopefully you can get multiple factory mags. They are hard to come by and all the aftermarket ones made are crap. I am referring to the P6, of course.
     
  18. sokygunner

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    Sig P6, not really a question about that one
     
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    Eek, how bad are the aftermarket mags, really? I'm seeing factory ones for $40 at jgsales.com, that's about the cheapest and they're used.
     
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    The Sig is the best on that list. You could find a better price on the SKS, and I'd stay away from the Rock Island. I've heard good things about the CZ's, but I know that the Sigs are solid.
     
  21. 6x6pinz

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    A couple of P6's and a couple of cz82's and one cz83. The p6's are nice and for some shoot real well. I have two friends who have sold theirs as they could not shoot them very accurately although I could. The cz's shoot well by anyone but can be a bit more complicated to do a complete tear down.
     
  22. sarduy

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    you can get a New Rock Island for ~350-380 dollars
     
  23. ironvic

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    Well, alright... I'll jump in the pool with the rest of the crowd and go with the P-6. I have an ex-law enforcement trade-in P-226 in 9mm and love it. It's tough to beat a Sig. Even if its been used hard.
     
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