Purdue editorial: Automatic Assault rifles easy to buy

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**rrriiinnggg**

"Colt Hut, we deliver in 30 minutes or less or your firearm is free."

"Yeah, uh, I wanna get a large 12 gauge with extra 00, and a large SKS, hold the bayonet please, and two medium 45s with rails and night sights. Oh, and throw in a bag of JHPs with those 45s."

"Okay, did you want the Remington or the Mossberg for that 12 gauge?"

"The Remington. Make it with the pistol grip too, I like those."

"All right. We're running a special on S&W 642s. Buy three for $5 each. Did you want to get some of those?"

"Oh, wow, that's a good price for those. Okay, I'll take half a dozen of those too."

"Okay, so one large Remington with extra 00; one large SKS, hold the bayonet, two medium 45s--you wanted Colt Commanders? We don't have those with the rails, is that all right?"

"Uh, make it Kimbers then. No aluminum frames though."

"Okay, two steel Kimbers with night sights and rails, with a bag of JHPs--"

"Make it a case of JHPs!"

"Okay, a case of JHPs; and half a dozen S&W 642s. Is that it?

"Do you have any more large automatic assault weapons?"

"Gosh, you know, we ran out of those earlier. They're usually gone by 4:00 or so. You gotta call sooner for those, they go fast. We'll have several thousand more tomorrow though. Anything else?

"Uh, yeah, two diet Cokes."

"Okay! We'll have your order there in 30 minutes or less or it's free. Thank you for calling Colt Hut. Have a nice night!"
 
yet another college paper prints yet another ridiculously flawed article. Do they bother to research first? I don't think so. It's just what tons of college students do for their papers.... make a whole bunch of baloney up that sounds good and hope for a B. Then they become professional reporters! This guy got started early.
 
Its Bloomington,Indiana,just like Madison,Wisconsin and Champaign-Urbana,Illinois.
Marxism is alive and thriving in these Big Ten(really 11, they can't count)schools of higher learning.
Have to ignore the immature silliness.
 
As of right now, the student is facing only drug charges. Why are there no charges concerning the weapon? Answer: The gun was probably in the residence legally.

OH teh NOEEESSS!!!!1111

In New York City, there's a slogan, "If you see something, say something." Every member of the Purdue community needs to follow this guideline. If your friend has such a gun, is doing drugs or things that just aren't right, tell them you think so.

At least he cuts to the chase. gun ownership = baaaad. Sheepish submission = goooood.
 
Hey thanks for the link, it got me dinged on the .mil firewall. If it's not too much trouble, can you copy/paste the text? Seriously, it will only waste like 15 calories.
 
No, not really a hotbed of Marxism here in West Lafayette--students are busy studying, working or drinking beer. Maybe a hotbed of engineering or slide rule collecting.

The author is just another East Coast Eloi who is frightened that Americans own firearms. Maybe someone should tell him how many guns are in this county?:D

Here's the article, Main:

Assault rifle discovery raises questions for Purdue students, city

Publication Date: 01/24/08

I have noisy neighbors; that I can deal with.

And if I discovered one of my neighbors had pot in his or her apartment, honestly, I probably wouldn't fret.

But last week, police found a loaded AK-47 assault rifle in one of my neighbors' apartment. And that I fret about.

West Lafayette Police Chief Jason Dombkowski said the gun was loaded with 30 rounds, with additional magazines of ammunition nearby, "ready to go."

Police responded to a noise complaint at a sophomore's apartment, where they found drugs and drug paraphernalia. Dombkowski said that during a subsequent search, police found not only the AK-47, but nearly two pounds of marijuana and $3,800 in cash. Which one of these things is not like the other?

As of right now, the student is facing only drug charges. Why are there no charges concerning the weapon? Answer: The gun was probably in the residence legally.

I spoke with Dombkowski last week and he said the state requires permits for handguns but not necessarily for other weapons, such as rifles. Because the federal assault weapons ban expired in 2004, if you can pass a background check, you can legally own such automatic guns.

Several other states, including New York and New Jersey, have enacted legislation banning the sale of assault weapons. But Indiana has extremely lax gun laws with no such provision.

We don't need to get into the cliche debate of general gun control, but I hope few would argue the need for automatic assault weapons within city limits.

Yes, the Constitution protects the right to bear arms, but we know that is not a license to hold exceptionally dangerous weapons such as bazookas, machine guns or assault weapons. As the federal government decreed in 1994, assault weapons just don't belong in our communities.

I urge the city council to further investigate this matter and consider, at least, passing a measure requiring all owners of assault weapons to be registered with the police department. I would personally advocate a ban of such guns within the city.

It is the responsibility of city officials to do what they can to prevent another Virginia Tech incident; mandatory registration would be a logical step.

A second cause for my concern is whether other people knew about the gun in the student's apartment. Although it is legal to hold such a weapon, that doesn't mean it's right.

In New York City, there's a slogan, "If you see something, say something." Every member of the Purdue community needs to follow this guideline. If your friend has such a gun, is doing drugs or things that just aren't right, tell them you think so.

I praise the police department in their success of discovering last week's situation, but police need our help and our eyes too.

The old saying goes "Good fences make good neighbors."

Let's keep that from becoming "Kevlar walls and bullet-proof windows ..."

Mike Westervelt is a junior in the College of Liberal Arts. He can be reached via e-mail at [email protected].
 
The author is a disgrace to the once honorable profession of journalism.

Some very basic research would have revealed various errors in his article but I expect that's either too difficult or he labors under the erroneous assumption that he actually knows gun law.

What's worse is that knuckleheads like this will eventually inherit the MSM from the current crop of knuckleheads.
 
As a nonviolent Buddhist vegetarian flaming liberal Democrat, I read your article with interest.

http://picasaweb.google.com/kyaung907/BURMASPHOTOS/photo#5116616297878676642

This is a Burmese Buddhist monk who was murdered for protesting against the Burmese government.

Again, I am a nonviolent liberal Buddhist. But I keep a loaded semiautomatic AK-47 (just like the one in your article) in the closet safe so I won't wind up like this guy.

I live in an apartment building with 28 other residents. Fully a third of them are armed.

Namaste (I salute the divine in you).
 
Gee, I wonder if young Mikey, ace reporter, would have liked to have lived in a certain totalitarian state of years gone by. He certainly thinks the police are to be praised for their quick action in getting one of those automatic weapons (or bazookas, or machine guns, or assault weapons, oh my), off the street; and he also recognizes that the police need our help. They need for us to be the eyes and ears for them so they can ferret out such illegal weapons. So do like New York citizens do, and spy and inform on your neighbors. That way, they can get rid of all those bad assault guns, just like the Federal government did in 1994. If you do, then Mikey says Purdue will be a safe and happy community to live in.
 
So he has no problem with a drug dealer living next to him, but he has a problem with a gun owner as a neighbor? Personally I think it was scary too, not so much the gun, but the gun along with loads of illegal drugs, and wads of cash. Does the writer not understand where most of the people get that cash for those drugs? I'm sure they aren't putting in extra shifts at starbucks. What is even more scary is thinking of the clientel the drug dealer must have had if the AK was in fact there for protection and not just an unrelated hobby.
 
"A second cause for my concern is whether other people knew about the gun in the student's apartment. Although it is legal to hold such a weapon, that doesn't mean it's right." yea I have a problem with that statement, I wonder what he would say about the articles by several newspapers giving away secret investigating tools used by homeland security, the CIA, and FBI to catch terrorists and track their money, I know the 1st amendment makes it legal but is it right? I also doubt he sees the need for the second amendment to protect his 1st amendment rights, I mean the government will look after his rights they always do whats right.
 
It is the responsibility of city officials to do what they can to prevent another Virginia Tech incident; mandatory registration would be a logical step.

Because of all the unregistered fully-automatic AK-47s used in VT? This kid is grasping at straws, how many minutes before this article was due did he slap it together?

I sent the kid an email pointing out a handful of his factual errors.
 
I'm emailing him, as well.

Me said:
Mike Westervelt,

I just finished reading your article regarding the contents found in your neighbor's apartment. While I, at first, shared your concern regarding the drugs and rifle found inside your neighbor's residence, I quickly found myself shaking my head at your article.

First, you said the rifle was legal, yet you continue the remainder of the article talking about the rifle, instead of talking about the drugs. He didn't own the rifle illegally. So what's the problem?

Second, you didn't do any homework at all. As someone who's educated on the topic, you completely misrepresent the federal laws governing ownership and purchase of automatic weapons in the US. Whoever you got that information from obviously has no idea what they're talking about. It is irresponsible of a journalist to intentionally do such a thing, especially seeing as their work is read by the masses, which usually are easily swayed.

Finally, it seems to me that the whole purpose of your article was simply to say, "I don't approve of others exercising their Second Amendment rights for all lawful purposes, and will personally advocate legislature that will further restrict those that would seek to legally purchase firearms." If I were to say the same thing about the First Amendment, you'd be sending me a similar email.

The next time you write something about a Constitutional right, I recommend you do a little homework.

Rob F
 
Another reason a liberal arts degree is like no degree at all.

First, the gun wasn't an AK-47, and wasn't automatic, an implication that it is a NFA weapon.

Second, the Assault Weapons Ban expired in 2004, and even then it didn't prevent the legal purchase and ownership of semiautomatic firearms, and 30 round magazines.

Third, what's the difference between a five round lever action and an AK type firearm with thirty rounds? Nothing for the first five shots.

It is also quite naive, to dismiss the danger of drugs. Whatever you point of view on drugs and the war on drugs, they are illegal and that illegality has been upheld by the Supreme Court. Internationally, criminals and terrorists supply most of the illegal drugs. Even in this country, drug dealers are more often than not, part of organized crime. To use the so often idiotic "moral relativity" and compare criminal possession of illegal firearms with lawful possession by ordinary citizens is outrageous. And of course, passing a law that bans legal possession of semiautomatic firearms isn't going to stop the drug dealer anyway. Not only is it outrageous, but it will increase the danger from the actual criminal.
 
What is even more scary is thinking of the clientel the drug dealer must have had if the AK was in fact there for protection and not just an unrelated hobby.

Yep, those college kids can be real scary.
 
ROMAK IV said:
Another reason a liberal arts degree is like no degree at all.
I'd like to say quite a few very specific things that would get me banned if I did say them.

Grow up.

You take one thing written by one individual and decide it applies to all students in such a large area of study.

/rolls eyes
 
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