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Python Needed A Little Brother

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by SRSTAdam21, May 15, 2020.

  1. SRSTAdam21

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    I was fortunate enough to pick up one of the new 2020 Pythons with a pretty low serial number. It has been flawless, and beautiful, and one of the best shooters. What a trigger!

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    Have been looking to add a little brother, was thinking a 4 inch Python. It is still on the list, but found this King Cobra Target at my LGS today (he has sold me way too many Colts this year) and had to have it. Plus my son was putting peer pressure on me which totally wasn't fair.

    Very nice gun, really good trigger pull as well. Not quite as good as the Python but smoother than most anything else I have. We are going to take it out tomorrow and do some tests with 357 and 38.

    Can't wait to try it out and post a report!

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  2. bannockburn

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    Oh that sounds terrible...your son putting pressure on you to buy another Colt revolver! In the name of fairness is there no justice in the world?

    Just kidding! My kids only wanted .22s for their first guns and I let them pick them out. None of them have the slightest interest in revolvers so at least you've got that going for you with your new Colts; that is someone to share them with!
     
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    LOL. Yeah, my oldest is 13 and loves wheel guns. They all started with their own OM Single Sixes so maybe that is why!
     
  4. Old Dog

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    I may have to move to Tennessee. Our gun shops up here can't get any of the new Colts in stock. Shore is a pretty new pony ...
     
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  5. ATCDoktor

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    I ordered my 4” 2020 Python right around the first the year and picked it up last week.

    The serial number is 67XX and it’s a fairly a fairly attractive revolver.

    Mine came right out of the box fairly dirty (For a brand new gun) showing that the factory fired more than the customary 3 round (one round every other chamber) function test.

    With the issues some of these New Pythons were having reference reliability, I wasn’t too worried about it’s cleanliness and I appreciated the extra effort/expense Colt went through to insure that it was reliable.

    The double action pull on mine as fairly good but the single action pull leaves a lot to be desired.

    I don’t have a trigger pull gauge so I’m only guessing but I’d say the single action pull is right around 4.5 pounds.

    Not awful, but not exceptional either.

    I’ve run about 200 rounds through it and have no issues.

    The somewhat heavy for my like go single action pull notwithstanding, accuracy at 20 yards was exceptional (for a 4” revolver”).

    I only had two sets of 38 special loads to try in mine but the both acquitted themselves nicely in my gun.

    The first load I tried was some ancient (35 year old) 3D munitions Remanufactured 148 grain full wad cutters.

    3D Munitions 148 grain full wad cutters 20 Yards from the bench:
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    That’s about 1.5 inches at 20 yards which for me is pretty good.

    The next load tried was a +p handload using some demilled federal aluminum 38 special cases (purchased about 8000 of these from RMR when they had them) and a 158 grain swaged semi wad cutter from Roze Distributing.

    These grouped into a little less than 2” at 20 yards from the bench which (again) is pretty good for me using a 4” revolver.
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    My cursory, somewhat short range testing tells me this is a very sturdy and accurate firearm.

    Here in the near future I’ll be doing some testing with some magnum handloads and I’ll try and report back my results on those.

    ETA:
    For those that care, I paid MSRP for mine and with local sales tax the total cost was $1625.00 out the door.

    That is a whole lot of money for a revolver that is IMHO no better (and maybe not as good) as a 4” S&W Model 686.

    That said, it does have Colt written on its side and with the ups and downs Colts had in the last 20 years who knows how long they’ll be around.
     
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  6. SRSTAdam21

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    I am sorry to hear you aren't impressed by your Python. There is no comparing my Python with my 586 or 686. There is no comparing the fit, finish and trigger pull of the King Cobra to my 586 or 686.
     
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    It's tough when your family are enablers...
     
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  8. NIGHTLORD40K

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    Glad you like your new Cobra!

    I just cant get over the strange trigger/ guard proportions.........

    The new Pythons are spot on, though, visually. Seriously thnking about one soon. Or a shooter grade vintage one.

    I already have a little brother for it-
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  9. SRSTAdam21

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    Love it!
     
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    We also have a baby brother...

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  11. JumboJVT

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    I'm glad you got two good Colts, but the one Python I've handled at the LGS was more in keeping with with ATC's experience: 4-ish pound SA trigger and very good but not exceptional finish. My 30-ish y/o 686-3 has the best SA trigger I've ever had on any gun, sub-2#...the proverbial glass rod. And the fit and finish is excellent in spite of 30 years of knock-around carry...you can almost see the sideplate seam. The general consensus seems to be the the new Colts are about as good as can be bought today, short of stepping up to a Korth, but they do seem to suffer some of inconsistencies that afflict just about everything being manufactured today. And the cylinder latch works in the wrong direction:)
     
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  12. bannockburn

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    Sounds exactly like my Model 686 only I would add that it also has the smoothest and the lightest DA trigger, out of the box, on any revolver I have ever owned!
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  13. JumboJVT

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    Sounds exactly like my Model 686 only I would add that it also has the smoothest and the lightest DA trigger, out of the box, on any revolver I have ever owned!
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    As best I can recall, my DA wasn't great out of the box, but still much better than friends Security Six, GP100 or M19. But now, many years later, the DA is very good...as I call it anyway. The only thing that drive me nuts is the dent just above the hammer window where the firing pin landed when a hammer nose spring failed about 20 years ago. I guess it makes it mine though.
     
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    Perhaps thats because you've never owned a Dan Wesson? :rofl::D

    Seriously, though, I dearly love my 686, am amazed by my DW, and was impressed by my buddies vintage Python (havent seen, let alone shot, a new one). All are fantastic revolvers.

    I like my Rugers too......but trigger finesse isnt their forte, lol. Their talents lie in other directions.......
     
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  15. CajunBass

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    That King Cobra Target looks good. I haven't even seen one of those yet. I was thinking about getting one instead of a 4" Python, but the Python turned up sooner.
     
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    Oh contraire my six-gunning friend! I had a Dan Wesson Pistol Pac some time before I had the Model 686 and while the Dan Wesson trigger pull was nice, the S&W was nicer!
     
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  17. SRSTAdam21

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    Its so awful there are all of these amazing options out there! :)

    I guess that's why I own all of the below

    1. Ruger revolvers: Check.
    2. Dan Wesson Revolver: Check
    3. Smith: Check
    4. Colt: Check
    5. Taylor: Check


    What a great damn hobby
     
  18. SRSTAdam21

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    Mmmmm that Dan Wesson action is good.

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    I don't worry about is this one better than that one. I'll just get both. :)

    I don't have them all anymore but I've owned Smith and Wesson, Colt, Ruger, Taurus, Rossi, Dan Wesson, and probably some I don't remember. And they're just the revolvers. :) We won't even talk about semi's.
     
  21. JumboJVT

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    Actually I do have a DW, a 3-3/4" model 14 357 that my grandfather bought new in '71 or '72 - he wasn't sure. Its been mostly a safe queen, pretty much like new, save for the "Barney frame" that has developed over the past 50 years. Maybe the newer DW's are great, but the DA on this one, although shorter and about the same weight as the 686, is much more susceptible to short-stroking hangs ups than the 686 (I know, operator error isn't the guns fault). But its hardly been shot, and the 686 has. I probably should be shooting it and carrying it, as it is quite accurate and considerably more compact and lighter than the 686...and doesn't appear to be worth alot.

    I am definitely a Ruger fan. But especially with a handgun, I find that the trigger is everything when it comes to hitting anything. I'm currently trying to decide if I should try an action job on a Bisley Flattop 44spl I picked up a year ago, or ship it out for the work (and where to send it). It does need some slicking up, but with whats currently going on, I'm reluctant to let it leave my hands!
     
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  22. Pat Riot
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    Curious. Are you saying the Colt revolvers you own outshine your 586 and 686?

    I haven’t handled any of the new Colt revolvers.
     
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    No better in what way(s)? Must be ignoring the machining and polishing aspects. The Python I handled was slicker than butter on glass with a great single action trigger. Fit & finish far beyond any Ruger or late model S&W. How many injection molded parts in a Python?
     
  24. SRSTAdam21

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    Outshine my 586, 686, 627 PC, GP100, SP101.
     
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    Really impressed with the King Cobra. Really enjoy the grip on it, can get a good high hold on it. Fits my sons hand really well, too. Definitely prefer the Python for full power 357 loads over the KC, but it handles them relatively well. It's certainly a winner.
     
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