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Q3-2013 Rimfire Match:

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Maverick223, Jul 2, 2013.

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  1. Maverick223

    Maverick223 Member

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    Welcome to the Rimfire Match for the months of July/August/September 2013! This match is open to any and every 22 caliber (as well as 17 and 20 caliber) rimfire rifle including the perennial favorite .22LR, as well as the .22Short, .22Long, .22 Mag., .17HM2, .17HMR, .17WSM, and 5mm Rem RF Mag (as well as any oddball rimfires that you might have). This match is meant to be challenging and educational, but most of all FUN. Hopefully it will get you out to the range and shooting your rifle. If you have one handy, make sure an bring a friend too.


    There are Two Optics Divisions:
    ->Iron sights and non-magnified optics and red dots. Shot at 25yds.
    ->Scopes and other magnified sighting devices. Shot at 50yds.

    *Note that the distance of irons div. returned to 25yds.

    There are Two Rifle Classes:
    ->Unlimited/Target Rifles (highly modified rifles, rests, target sights, sub-.20cal. chamberings, high magnification optics- over 10x [in the appropriate division] may be used)
    ->Sporting Rifles (Includes All Non-Target Class Autoloaders, Bolt Actions, Single Shots, Pumps, & Lever Rifles chambered for any rimfire cartridge .20cal./5mm and larger)

    Both classes can be shot from any position. Rests/Sandbags/bipods are permitted in the Target Class only. Shooting stick(s) are now permitted for both divisions (either crossed or walking stick style). Use of a sling is encouraged.

    25 Yd. (Irons) Target: See image attached below. Scale to "fit to page" on standard 8.5x11in. paper. The left vertical column can be used as sighters (or omitted at your discretion). The objective is to fire one shot at each of the bullseye targets. The target is scored as one point for any shot breaking the black ring, two points for any shot breaking the white inner ring, and three points for any shot breaking the center dot on each of the remaining 15 bullseyes, for a maximum available score of 45. [target recommendation courtesy of nbkky71]

    50 Yd. (Optics) Target: Same as above.

    [strike]If you enjoyed this match and want a bit more challenge, or just compare your rimfires to their larger cousins, check out the concurrent Centerfire Match (now quarterly).[/strike] Discontinued till further notice.

    When you are satisfied you've done your best post/attach (or shoot me a PM) a photo or scan of your target with as much of the following information as possible: Forum name (or name you want posted in the results), Rifle, make, model, vintage (if known), Sights/Optics (with magnification if applicable), Ammo, Position, Distance, Conditions (in/outdoors, wind, temperature...). Multiple submissions are allowed (in same or different division/class with same or different rifles).

    Self-scoring is encouraged and appreciated; all submissions due before September, 31st. ;)
     

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  2. ford8nr

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    Maverick, any chance of coming up with the "Long Range - 200yd Shoot :what:" we were talking about last quarter?
     
  3. Maverick223

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    Yes sir. I completely forgot about that, but I'll try to remember to do a 200/100 (optics and irons respectively) next match (which will be Oct/Nov/Dec) if that sounds like a good idea.

    :)
     
  4. ford8nr

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    Sounds good to me, thanks for hosting the shoots.
     
  5. bwsmith

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    100 yards with my Savage BMag in 17WSM sounds like fun :evil:
     
  6. Maverick223

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    Give it a try, I'm eager to see how the new cartridge and platform performs. [​IMG]
     
  7. Texas4x4hoe

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    Guess I'll get things going. Got some range time in just before it came a flood this morning. Shot my new to me 93R17 with the 3-9 Bushnell that came on the rifle, so unlimited optics division. Scored a 31.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. ford8nr

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    Good to see someone got it started. I'm waiting for my range to reopen after some range mods. Hopefully this week.
     
  9. Maverick223

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    Thanks for getting us started, Texas4x4hoe. Are you sure that you didn't short-change yourself on target 4 (from top), column 3 (from left, inclusive of sighters)?...it appears that you squeaked in a "3".

    :)
     
  10. Texas4x4hoe

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    I'll look at it when I get off work but I think it's just the way the paper is folded back.
     
  11. Maverick223

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    10-4, if it helps you can use a .17HMR bullet/cartridge as a gauge to see if it broke the line.

    :)
     
  12. Skeptic2

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    100 and 200 yards with a head wind or tail wind

    Wind is the big challenge for distance shooting with a 22LR rifle.

    I acquired a CZ452 Varmint, thumbhole a few months ago and mounted a Vortex Diamondback 3 to 9, 50mm. It is sighted in for 75yards (60M). The Brits seem to like 60M as a shooting distance.

    I compare Eley Club, SSHP, TEAM and Match OSP for drop at 100yards and 200yard.

    I have found Eley Match and Team have a drop of 4MOA at 100yards and 23MOA at 200 yards. The Eley Club has 3MOA drop at 100 and 22MOA at 200. The Eley SSHP drops 5MOA at 100 and 26MOA at 200 yards.

    I shoot in Texas at an altitude below 500 feet. The range in the morning is around 87F with a variable wind from 5 O'clock on the 100 yard. I find the wind drift is 1 to 2MOA with groups around 1.5". The 200yard range later in the morning is around 95F and variable winds from 11 O'clock to 1 O'clock. The wind drift is around 1MOA that can be accounted for, and groups are around 4" with flyers out to another 2" going vertically or horizontally.

    Oh, and there is a definite heat mirage from time to time. I pack it in before it reaches 100F, as I just don't like that much heat and the crazy rapid fire shooters are there in the afternoon.

    I would truly appreciate any pointers for improving my groups in a head or tail wind condition. Reading the wind and compensating is an art I need to learn.
     
  13. Maverick223

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    Wind is very difficult to read. I would recommend using a wind meter, Kestrel makes some good ones.

    PS: Not to get nit picky, but 75yds isn't 60M, one meter is roughly 1.1yds, thus making 75yds about 68M (a probably a bit more).

    :)
     
  14. KSCCHTrainer

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    Hi gang,
    Been lurking for a while and recuperating from some more eye surgery. Good thing I'm left handed/left eye dominant though as they've got my right one all buggered up.

    Cardiologist is wanting to upgrade my pacemaker so I'm going to have that done in Sept - just an overnight procedure as he's going to change the existing one for a newer model that fits the same wiring already in place. He says no problem shooting .22 right away but have to leave the .223 in the case for a couple weeks.

    While I've been away, I thinned out the herd, parting with my 93R17 and Savage model 10 Tactical target rifles. Kept the "FrankenRifle (Remington 7615 .223 pump) and put an Eotech 512 on it. Dang, I like that combination. Eotech has a 1 MOA dot in the center of that circle and even with my mediocre eyesight I can still group about an inch at 50 yards with it.

    Picked up a 10/22 Takedown Tactical with the factory threaded barrel & an M4 look alike birdcage flash hider on it as a thread protector. Easy to put a can on it if ever needed. Love the nice, padded carrying case those things come with.

    .22LR ammo is still pretty scarce in the Wichita, KS area so haven't been doing any shooting except the .223 to zero the Eotech when I mounted it, but the local Cabela's is starting to get some Aguila and CCI in. The CCI of course is at somewhat inflated prices, but the Aguila is reasonable and at least it's good plinking/squirrel/rabbit ammo for the Henry and 10/22. Keeping my huge stock of Wolf "Match Target" in reserve just in case.

    Since I have to sight in the new 10/22 Takedown, I might just try to shoot this quarter's match at 25 with open sights (assuming I can see them dang circles - LOL)

    Jim
     
  15. Maverick223

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    Welcome back, Jim! Hope they get your eye and ticker straight so you can get shooting the centerfire stuff again.

    :)
     
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    Hey Kel,
    The pacemaker surgery won't be until middle of September, but my ham radio hobby is kind of keeping me pretty busy. I'm doing demonstrations at some of the Midwest gatherings for the manufacturer of the equipment I own. They pay expenses and occasional deep discounts on stuff they make. Lots of fun and not too strenuous.

    No outdoor shooting lately around here - first we had severe drought and now severely getting drowned - LOL! More rain in the forecast from tonight through the next week. Temperatures have actually been well below 90 as well and would have been perfect for shooting outside if the ground weren't so saturated. Over 6 inches of rain in the last couple of weeks.

    Friend lost the range on his property due to industrial construction on adjacent land anyway so I'm back to shooting indoors or traveling 60 miles or more for the outdoor venues after the flood waters recede from them.

    Jim
     
  17. Maverick223

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    Sorry to hear about the recent deluge (it was the same here until the last couple of weeks) and loss of your buddy's range, but I'm glad to hear that you have other things to keep you out of trouble. :p

    I'm hoping that things will start to slow down a bit so I can get out and shoot a little more myself (I've been shooting rimfire from time to time, but not much CF lately). Heck I just got my 6mmRem. back from the gunsmith last week and still haven't had the opportunity to sight her in. Additionally, I have my rechambered 1885 High-Wall (in my modified .45-120Sharps...I like to call it the .458American Express b/c the plan is to push a 480gr. projectile @ 2200fps+ when I get through with load development) returning from the smith next week...so I'm going to have to make time for that.

    :)
     
  18. Skeptic2

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    100 yard zero for 22LR

    I decided to zero at 100 yards. I like to shoot at 100 and 200 yards. I can obtain sub MOA at 100 and about 2.5" at 200 yards. My best was 1 hole (touching and 1MOA low) with Eley SSHP at 100 yards. The rifle is CZ452 thumbhole and scope Vortex Diamondback 3 to 10 50mm off bench and bags.

    I tried zero at 25 and then adjusting to get 60M (about 65.75 yards with 1/4 clicks). This is just over thinking the problem. I seldom shoot below 100 yards, as I am not interested in shooting small animals or other objects.

    I really like the slide rule from Mil-Dot.com and all the information. I now wish I had a Vortex 6.5 to 20 50mm with mildot reticle and adjustable objective. It is cool to estimate range and windage without firing a shot. Cold first shots count and the CZ452 will deliver. I have hit right on center at 100 yards (on a good day).

    I think a fun competition would include ranging and cold first shots from different angles and under different conditions.
     
  19. KSCCHTrainer

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    Skeptic2,
    If you have an Android smartphone or an iPad/iPhone, there is a program out there by a Russian guy (Igor Borisov, I think) called Strelok. It's pretty doggone good and he keeps refining it and adding scope reticles. The graphic of the reticle is accurate and shows left-right-holdover-holdunder points for whatever range you select for your given wind conditions and rifle/cartridge ballistics.

    I haven't tried it with a .22 as I don't have a long range .22 like you do, but I have used it with super success on several .223's including a Remington 7615P pump carbine with a 16" barrel. It's 2 MOA capable (1" at 50 yards) if I manage to do my part with an Eotech 512 on it.

    He has a free version and also a "Pro" version for around $10. The Pro version doesn't have the graphic scope reticle, but gives you a bit more printed data.

    Jim
     
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    Maverick,
    I forgot to mention, we're getting a new indoor range here in the Wichita area sometime next year. They're claiming the backstop will withstand .50 BMG. It's only going to be a 25 meter range though so I hope the .50 BMG reference is only to strength and they don't actually allow people to shoot 'em - the muzzle blast concussion would be life threatening, to say the least!!! :evil:

    The guy building it is an old friend. His father and I were competitors in the Commercial 2-way radio business many years ago and I knew him when he was still a little kid.

    Hope he does well with it.

    Skeptic2 - hadn't seen that program, but on rainy days (just about every one this month) I'm fortunate to have a 100 yard indoor range available. Beats the heck out of cowering under a poncho to shoot even with covered firing points.

    I did manage to shoot my new 10/22 Takedown Tactical yesterday. Didn't try to shoot the match as I put a cheap (I mean REAL cheap) Center Point red-dot on it and the reticle detached itself from the windage and elevation adjustments after the 5th shot. It's going back to Academy Sports for a refund and I'm gonna swipe the Eotech 512 off my .223 pump to play with until the Barska Micro gets here from Optics planet. Ought to turn a few heads when I show up at the range today with a sight on the Ruger that cost almost twice what the gun did, but the guys there are used to me coming in with weird stuff like that. Should be fun :D

    Jim
     
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    OK Fellers,
    Finally did something right. I borrowed the Eotech 512 holo sight off my .223 pump and slapped it on the new 10/22 Takedown Tactical.

    Took it to the range and sighted it in @ 25 yards. The dang take-apart 10/22 surprised the heck out of me. That little bugger is nicely accurate with Wolf "Match Target" ammo and I've got close to 20K rounds of the stuff on hand!

    Here's the target for the 3rd Quarter rimfire match -

    Rifle: 10/22 Takedown (Tactical),
    Cal: .22LR
    Optics Eotech 512 holographic sight, no magnification
    Position: Sitting, rifle rested only on body parts - :D
    Distance: 25 yards, indoors
    Ammo: Wolf Match Target
    Total claimed score: 37

    Only took 3 targets after the zero to get it to settle down and the 1 MOA dot in the Eotech just covers the white part of the targets so it's easy to hold it centered.
    The hard part was to get it centered in the first place. Windage came out right on, but elevation came out shooting just a tiny bit high so the sight picture turned out to be holding the dot right on the bottom of the black ring. This showed a nice black & white crescent above the red dot. Results shown in the target.
    Jim
     

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    Looking good, Jim. That's a fair bit better than I would have thought for a take-down autoloader.

    :)
     
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    Yeah, me too. The little bugger surprised the heck out of me. Then again, it's new and the takedown joints are currently tight with no wear. I expect it will exhibit a gradual loss of accuracy with heavier use.

    Not complaining, mind you, but not expecting it to stay this way either. As long as I can hit rabbit sized targets out to 50 yards or so, it will certainly remain in the stable.

    The Wolf target ammo definitely helped as normal Federal bulk pack stuff never grouped tighter than slightly over 1" so I attribute most of the accuracy to the fact that this particular receiver/barrel combination just likes the precision Wolf target ammo. Not sure, but I've heard that Lapua actually makes the Wolf target 22 ammo? Also heard that RWS makes it so not sure just where it comes from but it's not manufactured in Russia like most of the Wolf centerfire ammo is.

    Jim
     
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    Hmm, I might have to shoot my takedown. I have the blue one but havent tried it yet. Nice shootin.:)
     
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