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Question about a rifle round

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Mrs. Armoredman, Aug 30, 2008.

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  1. Mrs. Armoredman

    Mrs. Armoredman Member

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    Is there any such a thing as a 243 cal. round for a rifle? I don't know what kind of rifle would shoot a round like that. I watch lots of Tru TV and they said the 243 and a 308 round was fired out of a 308 rifle.

    Could someone please tell me if this is a real round (the 243 round) This happend in 1995. They were out shooting Elk with this type of round. Is that the proper round to shoot Elk with?


    Thank you guys in advance.
     
  2. Afy

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    .243 is very real round. Rifles that fire it?

    Those chambered in .243 from Winchester, Remmington, Sako et al...

    Can you fire a .243 out of a .308. I dont know. I own niether... so theoretically it might be possible.

    But *** would you want to do that? .243<.308 so at best it would rattle its way out to 10 MOA accuracy... is your rifle built by a french boutique shop?
     
  3. rcmodel

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    Two different calibers based on the same case.

    The .308 is fired out of a .308 rifle.

    The .243 Winchester is fired out of a .243 rifle.

    The .243 is basically a .308 case necked down to hold a .243" bullet.

    You can't shoot them in a .308 rifle.

    rcmodel
     
  4. MutinousDoug

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    .243 Win is a standard cartridge based on the .308 Win. It could be accidently fired in a .308 chambered rifle. .243 is equivalent to 6mm. The .243 Win is usually considered an antelope and smaller sized game cartridge. .243 is a little light for shooting elk but it would be LEGAL to do so in the state of Colorado.
     
  5. a-sheepdog

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    I have used a .243 Winchester on Deer sized animals but would not go elk hunting with it. It is an inherently accurate round with little recoil, great deer round for recoil sensitive people. As far as shooting it out of a rifle desgned for .308 Winchester or 7.62x51, I would be worried about a catastrophic failure. Could you technically get the round to go off if placed in a .308 Win rifle, my answer would be yes, probably so. I might be wrong but I believe that the .243 Win has the same lenght case as the .308 Win, just necked down to .243 diameter, but I will let someone with more knowlege about it confirm if that is true. I would certainly advise against such a feat unless you want to destroy your rifle and possibly injure yourself severely.
     
  6. yesit'sloaded

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    .243 can be made from .308 brass. You can get a bolt action rifle in .308 and get a .243 barrel for it and shoot it fine with just a barrel swap. Another example of this type of cartridge is the .270 and the 25-06, both of which are a necked down 30-06.
     
  7. rcmodel

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    I should have said you can shoot them in a .308, but you can't hit anything if you did.

    The gun won't blow up or anything.
    It would just fire-form the case back to a .308, and the bullet would go rattling down the barrel toward parts unknown.

    rcmodel
     
  8. Bwana John

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    I dont have them in front of me but Ill bet you CAN shoot a .243 in a .308.

    It might not be real accurate, and theres probley quite a velosity loss, but Ill bet the .two fourty weak will chamber and go off just fine in a .308. If anything you might have a stiff bolt to close.

    .308's will fire in a 06, Ive seen it.
    .270's will fire in a 7mm Mag, Ive seen it.

    Ill bet .243's will fire in a .308 Im going to the manuals to see.

    PS just looked in the manual and .243 WILL fit and fire in a .308, exact base to shoulder case lenght and shoulder angle, headspace guages are the same.
     
  9. Bwana John

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    Ill bet 7-08 and .260 ammo will shoot in a .308 rifle also, what a versitile cartridge! :evil:
     
  10. Mrs. Armoredman

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    afy, It from the TV show Forensic Files. I was just asking if this round was real or if they made it up. I don't own a rifle that fires 308 rounds. I own a Ruger 10/22. I would never do something stupid like that.
     
  11. Mrs. Armoredman

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    Thank you guys for the information.
     
  12. wankerjake

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    .243 for elk

    While the .243 Winchester is not an ideal round for elk hunting, it is certainly capable of killing them. I have personally shot (and killed) an elk with a .243, but usually I use a .30-06. As with anything, shot placement is the key to killing an animal quickly. Most people agree that in general the .243 WIN is a little light for elk.
     
  13. Shawnee

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    It's possible to fire a .243 cartridge in rifles chambered for several other calibers - the 6mm, the 25/06, the 7mm/08, the .270, the .308 and the 30/06... and there are probably be others.

    It is not a good idea to do so, and could end up being a really bad idea.

    However - it would be entirely possibe to do so and hit your target at ranges of perhaps 100ft. or so, and certainly across a room - which means someone could intentionally use a .243 cartridge in their .30/06 rifle to shoot their unfaithful wife - hoping the investigators would atomatically overlook the murder weapon because it does not (usually) use a .24 caliber bullet like the one they found in the wife's carcass.

    Personally, I don't recommend the .243 for Elk, or spouses.

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  14. Mrs. Armoredman

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    This lady on Forensic Files killed her husband because she wanted to run off with another man. She is doing life in prison for this. The rifle was a 308 Remmington acording to them anyway. Thanks Shawnee.
     
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    Un Hunh !

    When you mentioned Forensic Files I sorta thought maybe it was something of that nature.

    :cool:
     
  16. Mrs. Armoredman

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    Her former inlaws are call her a greedy B. The reason why she went hunting with him and her ex-husband was to kill her current husband and get her ex-husband blammed for the killing. She ripped off her exhusbands rifle and his 308 ammo and shot her current husbans 3 times.


    Yeah I agree it figures.
     
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    the danger would be when the 243 went off in a 308 barrel the case neck could rupture do to the large caliber chamber its in.this could send burning gasses shooting out off the chamber possibly destroying it and burning you and your eyes.also the case might not grip the walls of the chamber enough and slam into the bolt face hard enough to damage it.the case could blow apart and get stuck,the bolt also might not open.or it might just shoot fine.it is a big risk.if it does shoot fine,it will not have either accuracy nor velocity.
     
  18. Mrs. Armoredman

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    OUCH thats sounds painfull. Plus ruining your rifle in the process. When the narrator described it I was confused on how she managed to fire a 243 in a 308 rifle. What would be a good rifle to go Elk hunting with?
     
  19. Shawnee

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    .25/06

    .257 Weatherby

    6.5x55 Swedish Mauser

    .260 Remington

    .270 Winchester

    7x57 Mauser

    7mm/08

    .280 Remngton

    7mm Rem. Mag.

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  20. MachIVshooter

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    You'd have to beat the bolt closed with a mallet to get a .243 to fire in a 6mm/.25-06/.270/.280/.30-06 chamber; The 6mm rem and .30-06-based cartridges have much more body taper than .308-based cartridges.
     
  21. Mrs. Armoredman

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    Thank you Shawnee
     
  22. Shawnee

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    Hi Mach IV

    You're right about the taper but the .243 case is short enough compared to the cartridges based on the 30/06 that the taper doesn't prevent chambering. (I think). :)
    I was wrong about them fitting the 6mm Rem. though.

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  23. Mrs. Armoredman

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    I'll admit it

    Ok here it goes. I am stupid. I am brain dead. I ask a question and I get asked if my Rifle was made in a beauty salon. The only person who gave sound advice without telling me that my rifle was made in a beauty shop was Shawnee. I thanked this person and I do appreicate the advice.
     
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    Mrs. Armoredman,

    Shawnee gave you some very valid info re: caliber selection for elk hunting but if you haven't gone to the "Hunting" section THR you are probably missing out on some of the best info available anywhere on the internet. Rifle selection for elk hunting here in Az. is more than just what caliber to use - if you are drawn for an elk tag over in the eastern rim country near Alpine or Hannagan Meadow the elevation and your physical condition will likely be more important than your choice of caliber. Spend a couple of days scouting for elk or tracking for a decent shot over ridges and valleys at 7000+ feet and you will begin to get the idea. I would recommend a rifle/scope combo that weighs no more than eight or nine pounds max that you can hit your target with out to 250 or 300 yards. Bullet weights of 140 to 250 grains are appropriate depending on the caliber but more important is your shot discipline. There is no rifle/ammo combination that can make up for a shot that should never have been taken. They don't call them "timber ghost" for nothing and more than one hunt has ended for me with the score favoring the game animal ( grin ). Good luck and good hunting.
     
  25. Mrs. Armoredman

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    I am not blamming anything on Shawnee. I agree Shawnee knows whats she's talking about. The culprits know who they are and it's not her or you.
     
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