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Question for any Vets on target shooting

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Gouranga, Dec 4, 2010.

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  1. Gouranga

    Gouranga Member

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    This is just a general curiosity for me.

    For those in the military, would you be able to share while in the service how frequently were you required and/or allowed to go to the range with your service weapon?

    I am curious. I know there is always a general perception in public with LEOs that they are always out there shooting and practicing when in actuality I shoot more frequently than many LEOs.

    If you could also include what branch you were in that would be cool.

    Thanks.
     
  2. EmbarkChief

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    While in the Marines (98-02) I had to qual once a year. Although from time to time we would get to burn up some "security ammo" that was hitting its one year mark. My MOS was not an "infantry" one so that's all they required from me. The sad part is I did more shooting before I joined the service than I did while I was in!
     
  3. DPris

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    Four years in the Air Force Security Police in the '70s, qualified once a year with the M-16 & .38 Smith that we carried everyday at work after basic.
    Specialty training with the M60 once at an overseas base.
    Denis
     
  4. Skribs

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    I've heard that a squad of SF guys go through more ammo in a day than the average infantry Battalion does in a month. That may be an average month vs. a high day; I'm not sure, but I think it depends more on MOS than on your branch (e.g. Navy probably doesn't do much with small arms, but SEALs probably do more than your average infantry army or marine).
     
  5. 06

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    Once a year for Marines '67-'76. But I fired on the rifle and pistol teams and got to play almost anytime I wanted. Burned a lot of ammo in the process.
     
  6. JohnBiltz

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    It really depends on the job and on your commanders. In the 82d an Infantry bn is going to minimally zero and qualify before assuming alert mission which is every 18 weeks. Generally during training cycle you are going to have a range week. Good chance there is going to be some live fire ranges as well. The most I ever shot was in Korea during patrolling phase on the DMZ. You had to zero and qualify with you weapon before every patrol so you were shooting every 3 days and you could pretty much shoot as much as you wanted while there since it was all squad run. But I'll say this, its time not ammo that is limited. Most units have ammo left over at the end of the year and if a commander wants to shoot you could end up shooting a lot and often its interesting things like anti-tank rockets that other units are trying to get used to keep their allocations up for next year. I shot about 20 LAWs once in an afternoon which is about 4 times as many as I shot in the rest of a 20 year career. Good times, good times.
     
  7. cottswald

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    Air Force 1974-80. We shot 100 rounds using the M16 once a year. The last 3 years, we had no ammunition and only disassembled/reassembled the weapon. We were told Congress did not allocate the funds for ammunition (was during the Carter Administration). :(
     
  8. 788Ham

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    Navy '67 - '71. After basic, the only time we got to shoot anything was maybe a ships party, then the ol' Gunner's Mate Chief would bring out some relics found in the brig, then we'd shoot some, other than that, Nah.
     
  9. Deanimator

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    In the Army, '80-'84, shamefully seldom.

    Range maintenance was appalling. In ROTC we were taught to shoot IN FRONT OF the near (50m?) targets because the centers of the popup targets were shot out, but the targets not replaced. If "You fight the way you're trained.", I wonder if any Carter era GIs ever unconsciously shot in front of hostiles?

    In Korea my troops were too busy on inane details for much shooting.

    As XO of a Basic Training company at Ft. Knox, permanent party qualified using Atchisson .22 conversion kits at the MTU indoor range. It was the first time I qualified where everything worked the way it was supposed to. I easily qualified Expert and was high score in the company. I'd never qualified Expert before that.

    From talking to Marines who were in at the same time, the Marines took Basic Rifle Marksmanship seriously, and the Army (at least the training establishments and the 2nd Infantry Division) most definitely did NOT.
     
  10. Ghosty1

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    lol@navy.
    im ex navy as well. we qualified with shotguns (from the hip...***) and .45
    we never did the shotgun at sea. only the .45 for roving patrol.
    as to our guns...they were beyond .50 cal and much more boom.
    i was CSM btw....tomahawk VLS 85-89 FC3 ahrens here.

    but seriously yea, in the fleet, .45 and that rarely.

    -G
     
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    Fired M1 to qualify in basic and never fired again. Not Good for where we were in Korea
     
  12. JustA19D

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    speaking of how much sf shoots, i have only shot with them once, we did some CQB range work with them, i would estimate that 5.56 and 9mm combined each of the 15 odd guys shot 1500-200 rounds in a 6 hour period. before we policed up the brass you coudnt hardly see the gravel anymore, just walking on pure brass
     
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    Army 2002-2005. After Basic, we were required to qualify only once before deployment. 44th MEDCOM, 261st ASMB.
     
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    Coast Guard 95-now. Every 6 months.
     
  15. Bonesinium

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    To date, nearly 4 years in, I have only fired 280 rounds in the Air Force. Qualified once with the M-16, 100 rounds. Twice with the M-9, 90 rounds each. So basically, not very often.
     
  16. Steve in PA

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    USMC 1979-1983, Combat Infantry (MOS 0351).

    Rifle qualified once a year. Prior to deploying overseas on Med Cruises, we would go out to 29 Palms, CA for additional live fire training. As part of our pre-deployment training, our crew served weapon, 0331, 0341 and 0351 would also live fire with their weapons to prove proficiency.
     
  17. Brer Rabbit

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    During my 30 years in special Forces, the most I shot was between 1979 and 1984 when I averages 100 rounds a day. Mush of the other times was annual qualifications and different live fire exercises. Vietnam to much to count. In my last four years about 50 rounds a week. Unless you are in combat arms annual qual is average--the rest is as previously was up to unit SOP, commanders and availability of ammunition.

    Brer Rabbit
     
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    USMC 75-79, never touched a US military weapon after boot. MOS 6657.

    I learned too late that if I checked with the right people at special services I could have borrowed a 1911 and got some free ammo to shoot at the pistol range. Darn missed the boat on that one.


    Clutch
     
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    When I was in the Navy at boot camp I shot a .22 pistol once. When I stood petty officer of the watch on the quarter deck I carried a 1911. I never had any training with it and never fired a 1911 the whole time I was in. The pistol fit so tight in the holster you couldn't even get it out without a great deal of effort.

    I did get to fire an M16 once at sea. The Marines were practicing and let a few of us also shoot on semi and full auto. The Marine Captain was pretty good with his M16 on full auto. He obviously had a lot of practice.
     
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    While in the Navy, i was required to re-qualify yearly on the M9, m16, and shotgun(mossberg m500) being the ships SAPO (Small Arms Petty Officer) I had an "In" with the range guys at SBNL and could shoot fairly regularly, providing we where not at sea . This varies from command to command and rating also . I was a Torpedoman's Mate on fast attack submarines .
     
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    USAF Jan 63-Dec 66. Think was M1, Basic Training. We used our BRAINS.:neener:
     
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    I'm not infantry or in an infantry unit, so I only get to zero and qualify once a year. Sometimes down range we could get some practice ammo and train more, or while getting ready to go. I shoot far more on my own than on duty.
     
  23. Shadow 7D

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    I was a medic, so I got to the range...
    4 times a slow year, over 12 on a busy year, preferred to go with the Cav scouts, but/and as a medic I was 'covering' the range, but I always brought my rifle if I could, even if it did piss of the armorer, since it wasn't 'my' unit that was doing it. That was me, and I volunteered to do that, others, got overdue, so less than once a year.
     
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    Air Force 1965 - 1989, qualified with Carbine annually and then M16 annually, sometimes with .38 pistol annually. Then I transferred to Small Arms Tech and got to shoot a good bit more, plus M60, M14, M79, and a few other small arms. Never enough though.:eek:
     
  25. Utah1

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    Army 85-89. With the 82nd for 3 1/2 years. We only qualified once a year if I remember correctly. Zero the rifle, 20 rounds for practice, and 40 for qualifying. Never shot a military handgun while in the service. We did shoot a lot of blanks with the miles gear.

    I shoot on average now more in one month than I did in all four years in the army.
     
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