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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by ulflyer, Apr 15, 2015.

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  1. ulflyer

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    Is it hard to get used to not having traditional sights? What kind of accuracy do you get at 15-20 feet?

    Thinking of getting one, or perhaps the Defender.
     
  2. bannockburn

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    Sorry can't help you. My New Agent had the XS sights on it. That was the reason I bought it because I couldn't do much of anything without a set of sights.
     
  3. ulflyer

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    XS Sights?...... Factory? Didn't know they could be had that way. Would be more enticing to me also.
     
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    I sold mine after about 200 rounds . I could get a some what decedent group if I fired about 1 round a min. I went back to my Defender . That trench sight not for me .
    After I traded a friend rushed down and bought it He loves it Go figure. :banghead:
     
  5. Chocolate Bayou

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    Colt Defender

    My 9mm Defender is my EDC. Had it for over a year and a half and no problem. I did put on Trijicon HD sights. Shoot it regularly and even when I'm taking other guns to the range to shoot, I will run one mag of Hornady Critical Duty through when i am finished shooting whatever other guns i have brought. Here in Texas, we are about to pass open carry, even then, I still am going to carry it
     
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    ulflyer

    I think they made a limited number of New Agents with the XS sights and they were sold through some distributor (Lipseys, maybe?). I see on Gunbroker now that a lot of them are coming with Crimson Trace grips so that be another way to go if the trench sight doesn't work for you.
     
  7. ulflyer

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    Thanks Bannockburn. If I could have one with sights I'd be seriously interested, but not with CT. I have CT on a revolver which I keep around the house but 99% of my travels are during the day when I wouldn't have much use for it.

    Chocolate: Am now beginning to shift my thoughts to the Defender in 9mm since I shoot that round the most and reload them. There are a variety of other 9mm compacts in 1911 style that I want to research. I do know from experience that I want something no heavier than the Defender or I won't carry it. I have a Kahr P45 and Kahr CW9, both about 22oz unloaded and they are close to my limit of comfort. The Defender I believe is 25oz unloaded so that might work.
     
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    I had a New Agent that was my EDC for about two years. You don't use the whole trench, just about an inch or so near the muzzle. Takes a box or two of ammo to get the hang of it. It's not intended to be a one jagged hole target gun, you basically point shoot with it. It was more than accurate enough for it's intended purpose, self-defense.

    No matter what I fed it, it was as boringly reliable as a Glock. Never a failure to anything.
     
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    I had a new agent and I had a gunsmith install a small shotgun bead in the trench. It helped me with accuracy. I sold it and bought a glock 30 that's gone too and I now carry a kahr cw45
     
  10. Combat Engineer

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    Found the New Agent a little awkward for my eyes as it uses a rectangular trench groove which seems to be cut at 2 different widths, one slightly wider than the other, before and after the ejection port. Also the beavertail is the old style, not contoured (streamlined) for a more comfortable fit. Went with a Kimber RCP II, which also uses a trench sight, but it is a rounded groove, which works better for me, plus a more comfortable beavertail and rounded heel grip. Also have an AMT groove sight Backup 45. And have shot an early ww1 era (1915) Walther M4, which uses a v-trench groove sight.

    "Is it hard to get used to not having traditional sights? What kind of accuracy do you get at 15-20 feet?" [ulfyer]

    Its pretty easy to pick up, remember you are not shooting at 150 feet here. Accuracy at close range... expect a 1" group. Pictured below is the smallest current production 45, the AMT, rapid fire, and that group is 1". The AMT is a heavy trigger DAO, the SA micro 1911s are much easier to get on target.

    "There are a variety of other 9mm compacts in 1911 style..." [Ibid] True enough, but there are a lot more manufacturers building small non-1911 9mms, so the options can go up and the prices down.

    The huge advantage of the groove/trench sight 1911 is that it carries so well, the lack of traditional sights means a no snag quicker draw.


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    That type of sight is nothing new. They've been making pocket pistols with it for a hundred years now. It's meant for self-defense ranges and point-and-shoot shooting.
     
  12. ulflyer

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    CombatEng: My hats off to you for the group with the AMT. Many years ago when they first came out I bought one since I loaded 45acp's and wanted something small to carry.
    Back then, there were very few guns that small in the larger calibers. Anyway, that rascal felt like it had a 20LB trigger and I could never get used to it. Didn't keep it very long because of that.

    Have decided the Agent is not for me and if I have to have another carry piece I'll take
    a look at the Defender in 9mm. I had one once in 45 but for some dumb reason sold it!
    Functioned well, reasonably accurate.

    I have a Kahr CW9 and P45 so theres no good reason to get another, but just have a 1911 itch for one small enuf to carry.
     
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    I put a 1911 Crimson Trace on mine as soon as I got it, carry in IWB, DEARLY LOVE IT.

    As they say, use the light, it scares and confuses the Perp....

    DGOD
     
  14. Dframe

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    I tried out the new agent but bought a defender instead. The trench sight is fine, it just wasn't for me.
     
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    I also had that AMT when it came out. I had some fool custom shop, do a trigger job on it, and they ruined the gun, they either cut of grinded to much off something, and every 4th or 5th squeeze, it would slip off the sear, "I guess", it would just go click.
    I really liked it and it was accurate, just a tad too hard to pull that trigger.
     
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    "...that rascal (AMT BACKUP 45) felt like it had a 20LB trigger and I could never get used to it. " [ulflyer]

    Yes, it is a very heavy trigger. I completely disassembled and gently polished (fluffed & buffed - no grinding) every piece. The result is a very smooth trigger... but still heavy. Not for everyone.

    "...but just have a 1911 itch for one small enuf to carry. " [Ibid]

    If you want 'small enuf' check out the Springfield Armory EMP. Of all the 1911s out there, this is the smallest, fits the hand realy well. Fit & finish are best described as 'jewel like,' It rivals any semi-custom or custom 1911. Available in 9mm and 40 cal. My favorite 1911 carry (40 cal).

    Best to you... good luck deciding.


    PS: No trench sights, the 1911 EMP comes with Novak sights which work quite well.
     

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    They are great little guns, I also had a 40.
     
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