I have been scouring the net about shotguns for home defense. Everything I have read is about pump shotguns. Why?? What is wrong with a single shot short barrelled youth shotgun? What happened to the KISS theory? Now my two cents is that a single shot is better. Its lighter easier and faster to handle simple to operate and the best part is that if you ever needed to use it for home defense it will leave the jury with a better impression than a shotgun capable of carrying multiple rounds. What do you guys think?
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rcmodel
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I think you may need more then one shot if there is more then one bad guy.
Or you miss.
IMO: A single-shot is way better then no gun.
But a double-barrel is better then a single-shot.
And a repeater is better then a double-gun, be it pump or semi-auto.
rcmodel
Or you miss.
IMO: A single-shot is way better then no gun.
But a double-barrel is better then a single-shot.
And a repeater is better then a double-gun, be it pump or semi-auto.
rcmodel
Depends on where you put your shot. And a single is pretty fast to load if you know what you are doing with it. I think most of the time people forget about the simple rule of always being on the move in a bad situation. A moving target is harder to hit. Not only that but taking cover has its merits too if you are faced with more than one opponent. That being said though it does take more skill to effectively use a single shot than it does to use a pump or semi automatic.
Dismiss that theory right now! Maybe a jury will feel better if you use a 410 instead of a 12, too. If you are dead there ain't no jury that can bring you back. One is better than none, two is better than one, seven is way better than two. I do agree about ease of handling but a pump is really not that much heavier.
357wheelgunner
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I'm getting one of these soon, because it matches my stainless revolvers:
http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/stoeger_condor_outback.php
I wouldn't feel any less armed with a double than with a pump shotgun, but I want at least one followup shot.
http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/stoeger_condor_outback.php
I wouldn't feel any less armed with a double than with a pump shotgun, but I want at least one followup shot.
moooose102
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think about it. it is in the middle of the night. you just woke up. it is dark. and you really dont know if there is anyone there or not, how many, where he or they are. if they are armed or not. how good they are if they are armed. now, do you really want the lives of your whole family to rest on one shot?
That one shot is only part of my home defense system. I also have two entry way doors with door locks on them and noise makers on the doors. I also have a motion activated porch light for outside and I always leave a low watt light on in my enclosed front porch. I also have a red heeler who is about two years old and a pup that is a rott shepard mix. Not only that but I know the layout of my house and I picked the bedroom with the best field of vision for the house. I can for example lay a muzzle out my bedroom door and have a clear field of fire all the way to the back door. The front door is equally covered. Also with a cheap wal mart laser pointer flash light mounted on the shotgun I will see what I am shooting at and I will not miss. How many people can come through a door at the same time? Only one. That is how I will deal with them. One through the door equals one on the floor. You just have to set it up like a fire drill.
Many single shots have only extractors.
It takes a rather long time to reload an extractor gun, and even more so under stress. I use an old double for hunting and dog training sometimes, so I know from experience.
I would only use an extractor single shot if I had to choose between that and a stick or something. The gun would be better than the stick.
An ejector gun would be more viable. With practice, it can be reloaded relatively quickly.
An ejector gun with two barrels would be better still.
This is where I start wondering if the OP is serious...
It takes a rather long time to reload an extractor gun, and even more so under stress. I use an old double for hunting and dog training sometimes, so I know from experience.
I would only use an extractor single shot if I had to choose between that and a stick or something. The gun would be better than the stick.
An ejector gun would be more viable. With practice, it can be reloaded relatively quickly.
An ejector gun with two barrels would be better still.
This is where I start wondering if the OP is serious...
Why? Its cheap and it works. I can beat it up and break it and go buy another one. All a laser sight does is give you an indication of where your shot is going to go. That is as close to accurate as they get realistically speaking. A cheap laser pointer will do the same thing. It just helps tell you in a hurry where your barrel is pointed. Another factor in my opinion is how well the rest of the members of your family can use the gun. A home defense gun should be something that is light enough and simple enough that everyone in the house can use it with ease. Maybe the old school ways are still the best ways. Funny thing about mechanical equipment is that the more moving parts you have in it the more Murphy has to work with.
I mean dont get me wrong I can see the fascination with pump shotguns. Some look really cool. But I just cant quite figure out where their popularity came from. Pump shotguns to my mind were something given to people who were not very good shots. That way if they miss they can rapidly fire again.
Uh, because it's not designed to withstand the recoil of a light 12 Gauge, and therefore can't be trusted to hold zero, or to keep working. Relying on a laser sight that can't be trusted means risking that your one precious shot will miss.
Single shot shotguns have never been the favored design for defensive purposes. There's nothing "old school" about them.
A funny statement from someone who thinks a Wal-Mart laser pointer is either necessary or beneficial when shooting a shotgun.
No. Gouge a grove toward the front of the fore grip and line it with padding. Then get a couple of those brass push clamps and mount them in the groove with screws. Wrap the laser pointer in black electrical tape and just push it into place.
It is but it isnt. As I said all you need it to do is give you an idictation of where your barrel is pointed. I did something similar with the stock of my mauser 8mm when I floated the barrel. What I did was cut the barrel down and reattach the front bead sight. Then I cut the stock down so that it was short enough to be supported by the screws alone so that I could then remove the front ring that secured the front of the longer stock to the barrel. In effect there is a minute gap between the front of the stock and the barrel of the rifle. I took it from about 7 or 8 pounds down to just over 5 and it hits dead on.
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