Questions About CZ75SA
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Gary G23
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The one I bought in January came with a plastic trigger. Yes they are as reliable and accurate as the 75B.
Walt Sherrill
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Some in the pipeline had metal triggers.
There is a plastic trigger with overtravel adjustment, and a metal one with overtravel adjustment.
There is also an optional two-way adjustable trigger (also adjustable for takeup.) Some milling on the front this trigger may be required to make it work properly -- as part of the fitting process.
If the plastic trigger breaks, CZ will replace it with a metal one. I've only heard of one or two plastic ones breaking. While one or two is one or two too many, most seem to be fine, with no problems.
The two-way adjustment possible with the SA only gun is the only real advantage of the 75B SA over the DA/SA models. With good trigger jobs, both can have a superb SA trigger.
Jim Miossi at Miossi Gun Works, a regular participant on the CZ Forum seems to be doing some of the best trigger jobs available, and is now offering a new, harder sear built to his spec), too.
Jim uses special jigs to recut the hammer hooks and sear to do away with any lift of the hammer before release. He offers a crisp, light (within limits you specify) SA trigger and a smooth DA trigger.
There is a plastic trigger with overtravel adjustment, and a metal one with overtravel adjustment.
There is also an optional two-way adjustable trigger (also adjustable for takeup.) Some milling on the front this trigger may be required to make it work properly -- as part of the fitting process.
If the plastic trigger breaks, CZ will replace it with a metal one. I've only heard of one or two plastic ones breaking. While one or two is one or two too many, most seem to be fine, with no problems.
The two-way adjustment possible with the SA only gun is the only real advantage of the 75B SA over the DA/SA models. With good trigger jobs, both can have a superb SA trigger.
Jim Miossi at Miossi Gun Works, a regular participant on the CZ Forum seems to be doing some of the best trigger jobs available, and is now offering a new, harder sear built to his spec), too.
Jim uses special jigs to recut the hammer hooks and sear to do away with any lift of the hammer before release. He offers a crisp, light (within limits you specify) SA trigger and a smooth DA trigger.
PCRCCW
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The SA is my favorite CZ.......period. They are as reliable and IMO, more accurate than the plain jane 75B. Get one youll love it........................
Shoot well..
Shoot well..
Walt Sherrill
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There may be slight differences in the slides between the DA/SA and SA version, in that the SA models may have longer slide rails -- but that really ought not have much (if any) effect upon accuracy.
The two versions (DA/SA and SA) certainly have the same barrels and lockup systems. And the trigger itself shouldn't account for any accuracy improvement -- although a better trigger will make it easier to shoot one well...
If it is as you say, what would account for an accuracy difference?
The two versions (DA/SA and SA) certainly have the same barrels and lockup systems. And the trigger itself shouldn't account for any accuracy improvement -- although a better trigger will make it easier to shoot one well...
If it is as you say, what would account for an accuracy difference?
Gary G23
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I don't like the thought of having to replace a trigger.
Well you better not look at a Glock, XD, Hk,...............................
Well you better not look at a Glock, XD, Hk,...............................
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I haven't read posts about Glocks and HKs breaking triggers. Have you? I called CZUSA and they said that some CZ75SAs come with plastic and others with metal triggers. They did say that if you get one with a plastic trigger that you could send it to them and that they'll replace it with a metal trigger at no cost, you only pay shipping to them. 
That sounds like a good deal.
That sounds like a good deal.PCRCCW
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"If it is as you say, what would account for an accuracy difference?"
Walt, Walt, Walt......you bought my last SA and YOU can vouch for how accurate it is. It very likely is just the trigger being more agreeable with me and making me more accurate.
I also know the SA is built as a cheap Comp. gun and was designed that way from CZUB. The frame is different, look at the beavertail compared to a Std. 75B. They sport them as a "Competition gun" on their website and CZUB may take a little more care in the assembly/tolerances on the SA..
I cant say its that way..but they are the tightest frame/slide/barrel CZ guns Ive ever had. All effect accuracy to a small degree.
Or I could be wrong................
Shoot well.....
Walt, Walt, Walt......you bought my last SA and YOU can vouch for how accurate it is. It very likely is just the trigger being more agreeable with me and making me more accurate.
I also know the SA is built as a cheap Comp. gun and was designed that way from CZUB. The frame is different, look at the beavertail compared to a Std. 75B. They sport them as a "Competition gun" on their website and CZUB may take a little more care in the assembly/tolerances on the SA..
I cant say its that way..but they are the tightest frame/slide/barrel CZ guns Ive ever had. All effect accuracy to a small degree.
Or I could be wrong................
Shoot well.....
Walt Sherrill
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Eric, Eric, Eric... <grin>
Your ex-75B SA is, indeed, very tight. It is also very NON-STOCK. The frame and slide have obvously been polished and messed with, perhaps tightened. And its truly slick -- it feels like its on ball-bearings. The gunsmith who did the work for you was gifted, as you well know.
But, none of the other 75B SAs I've handled are as nice or as slick.
And, while its accurate, I wouldn't really say its more accurate than my 85 Combat, which has had some tenderness applied, but nothing like the 75B SA. And, the little Compact I bought from you seems to shoot right with both of them, even though the trigger isn't as nice. Its no slouch -- but the trigger makes it harder to compare them evenly. Not quite in the same class.
I suspect that some 75B SAs are very accurate, and some are only so/so. Ditto the 75B DA/SA.
I can't find or see a thing that is built into the 75B SA that should make it inherently more accurate than its 75B DA/SA brother or sister. The barrel, the bushing (non-removable), and the lockup seem the same. Slides will interchange with a non SA equivalent.
The slide design is a little different -- longer rails -- but those don't really come into effect until the slide is so far back that the bullet has left the barrel. The 9mm version doesn't even incorporate the Full Length Guide Rod of the .40 version. The frames themselves seem identical, except for the beavertail, and all the parts interchange, except that that SA has a couple fewer parts.
It would be interesting to find out if extra care is taken with these guns through production. You have contacts (or did) at CZ-USA. Why don't you ask?
You may be right, but it isn't intuitively obvious why they are more accurate, if they are.
Your ex-75B SA is, indeed, very tight. It is also very NON-STOCK. The frame and slide have obvously been polished and messed with, perhaps tightened. And its truly slick -- it feels like its on ball-bearings. The gunsmith who did the work for you was gifted, as you well know.
But, none of the other 75B SAs I've handled are as nice or as slick.
And, while its accurate, I wouldn't really say its more accurate than my 85 Combat, which has had some tenderness applied, but nothing like the 75B SA. And, the little Compact I bought from you seems to shoot right with both of them, even though the trigger isn't as nice. Its no slouch -- but the trigger makes it harder to compare them evenly. Not quite in the same class.
I suspect that some 75B SAs are very accurate, and some are only so/so. Ditto the 75B DA/SA.
I can't find or see a thing that is built into the 75B SA that should make it inherently more accurate than its 75B DA/SA brother or sister. The barrel, the bushing (non-removable), and the lockup seem the same. Slides will interchange with a non SA equivalent.
The slide design is a little different -- longer rails -- but those don't really come into effect until the slide is so far back that the bullet has left the barrel. The 9mm version doesn't even incorporate the Full Length Guide Rod of the .40 version. The frames themselves seem identical, except for the beavertail, and all the parts interchange, except that that SA has a couple fewer parts.
It would be interesting to find out if extra care is taken with these guns through production. You have contacts (or did) at CZ-USA. Why don't you ask?
You may be right, but it isn't intuitively obvious why they are more accurate, if they are.
Mikul
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I would not buy another gun with a plastic trigger. My H&K is a great gun, and the plastic trigger shows no signs of wear at over 40,000 rounds, but the trigger flexes slightly and screws up the trigger feel.
CZ must have lost their mind to put a plastic trigger on the CZSA. The whole reason to buy this gun is for the improved trigger and then they slap the flex-monster on there.
CZ must have lost their mind to put a plastic trigger on the CZSA. The whole reason to buy this gun is for the improved trigger and then they slap the flex-monster on there.
PCRCCW
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Well thats why the CZ SA now comes with a steel trigger, on most guns anyway.
Walt........yep, youre right. I cant prove it....wont even try. I know nothing you guys dont, even with my connections with CZUSA. What I claim is just a seat of the pants opinion. Nothing else. (Even though, we all know it MUST be the beavertail that makes the difference. )
The Compact you got from me is ABSOLUTELY scary accurate. Im sorry I sold that one too.......but at least they went to a good home.
One note thats worth putting down here.......the two most accurate CZ's tested in the Gun Rags.....for what thats worth :banghead: Were the 97 and SA.....both group'd under 1" @ 25 yds from a rest with 5 rnds. I dont remember the articels/mags in question....just the stats. But Ive got copies of them both buried somewhere.
If a gunrag says its true..........my god, who am I to argue with that!
Shoot well..................
Walt........yep, youre right. I cant prove it....wont even try. I know nothing you guys dont, even with my connections with CZUSA. What I claim is just a seat of the pants opinion. Nothing else. (Even though, we all know it MUST be the beavertail that makes the difference.
)The Compact you got from me is ABSOLUTELY scary accurate. Im sorry I sold that one too.......but at least they went to a good home.
One note thats worth putting down here.......the two most accurate CZ's tested in the Gun Rags.....for what thats worth :banghead: Were the 97 and SA.....both group'd under 1" @ 25 yds from a rest with 5 rnds. I dont remember the articels/mags in question....just the stats. But Ive got copies of them both buried somewhere.
If a gunrag says its true..........my god, who am I to argue with that!
Shoot well..................
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