Questions raised by New York's New Magazine Restrictions

[bushmaster1313]

How bad must it get before someone is justified in loading that extra round?

Will the jury be asked if it was a "Righteous Load"?

Can a defendant charged with defending his family with 8 rounds in a 10 round magazine be permitted to ask the jury for "Magazine Nullification?"

Will there be a "Magazine Doctrine" akin to the "Castle Doctrine"?

Will "Load Your Magazine" be harder or easier to prove than "Stand Your Ground"?

How long will it take till the courts work out the elements of a "Justifiable Loading"?

If you have 7 rounds in a 10 round magazine and are attacked by 8 bad guys, do you have to shoot one of them first before you can put another round in the magazine?

If a resident in his home mistakenly miscounts and loads an eighth round under the stress caused when confronted by an intruder, will there be a "Duty to Unload"?

Is having more than 7 rounds in a magazine a strict liability offense, or will defendants who did poorly in math be able to plead "Diminished Capacity"?

 

[BHP FAN]

http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/bracken-seven-and-thirty/

 

[JohnsXDM]

What about 7 in the mag and 1 in the pipe? Does that make it 8?

 

[buckeye8]

Let this be a lesson for those of you who think they're only after 100, 30 or 10 round magazines. They're playing the long-game.

 

[joeschmoe]

Breaking news;


New York and New Jersey have voted to return to mother England as colonies and apologize for the revolution.
They look forward to bowing in submission to the queen and pray for her protection.

 

[Walkalong]

You follow the law or risk prosecution.

 

[CDW4ME]

Law abiding will follow that absurd law.
Criminals, they are going to follow that law to avoid a fine?

Bank robber #1: You ready to rob this bank?
Bank robber #2: Yea, got my 7 round magazine.
Bank robber #1: Crap! Mine is a illegal "high capacity" 10 rounder. We gonna have to wait till I get a legal "clip".

 

[MikeJackmin]

> You follow the law or risk prosecution.

Yep.

The law says that you can have seven in the mag and one in the chamber. Carry another mag or two if you want. Help change the law by supporting the various legal challenges already working their way through the courts.

 

[tarakian]

If you end up in a firefight, just make sure the number of holes in the intruder(s) is less than or equal to the number of empty mags at your feet times 7 plus the one in the pipe. Expressed mathematically:

H<=(Mx7)+1

Unless the firefight happens at an incorporated range or NRA sanctioned competition, then the formula is:

H<=(Mx10)+1

 

[goldie]

Heres an interesting point; if you load 10, & used the whole mag on 2 intruders, you now have an empty mag;when police arrive, there is no ammo in the mag;law says if your COUGHT with more than 7 IN the mag

 

[mvorbrodt]

Goldie,
perhaps this is another unintended consequence: a person defending him/her self will "unload" the extra ammo into the offender, to avoid prosecution, possibly causing more deaths ;-)

 

[jard]

Right - you had a few loose rounds in your pocket. You re-loaded the mag

 

[goldie]

Dont we all wish this was just a bad dream that we can wake up from ?:banghead:

 

[Upstater]

^^^ you hit nail on thead with that one!

 

[rugmar]

Just put all shots through the same hole. Makes it hard for someone to count.

 

[ScottieG59]

The law passed in a desperate rush is a creation of Gov. Cuomo to help build his liberal credentials for a run at the presidency. The 7 round figure was created by Cuomo himself, as stated in the NY state assembly.

It is purely political theater rushed though in the evening to avoid discussion and debate. :banghead:

In fact, NY supposedly forgot to exempt law enforcement in the original signed bill. This might be a lie told after police complained loudly. After all, NY police used 6 shot revolvers for many years.

Also, the bill gave criminals 60 days before gun violence faced stiffer charges, presumably for currently planned crimes to be completed first.

 

[ScottieG59]

> You follow the law or risk prosecution.

Yep.

The law says that you can have seven in the mag and one in the chamber. Carry another mag or two if you want. Help change the law by supporting the various legal challenges already working their way through the courts.

I thought the law only allowed one 7 round spare magazine.

 

[bushmaster1313]

If a person has a pre ban magazine that looks like it holds only 10 rounds but the owner wants to be sure that an 11th round cannot be crammed in, can he first load it with 10 rounds to see if an 11th will fit, or must he drive over the state line to check, thereby increasing his greenhouse gas emissions and destroying the planet.

 

[Captain33036]

Not to detract from how pathetic this new law is, however, I am surprised that the discussion is not going in the direction of NYkers all switching to .45acp from any lower caliber gun they might have.

 

[Mousegun]

In fact, NY supposedly forgot to exempt law enforcement in the original signed bill. This might be a lie told after police complained loudly. After all, NY police used 6 shot revolvers for many years.

Just shows to go ya how little these clowns know about firearms and how fast they are to pass legislation without thinking of the unintended.

 

[BHP FAN]

people that don't know a damn thing about guns should not be allowed to write laws about them it's like having a waitress, or a bank manager write our building codes.

 

[browneu]

people that don't know a damn thing about guns should not be allowed to write laws about them it's like having a waitress, or a bank manager write our building codes.

Excellent point.

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[jerkface11]

people that don't know a damn thing about guns should not be allowed to write laws about them it's like having a waitress, or a bank manager write our building codes.

These same people want doctors to give gun safety advice.

 

[G.barnes]

just keep an extra empty mag on you. after you shoot him just throw the empty on the ground and claim you reloaded.

 

[BHP FAN]

I prefer seven round Mecgar magazines in my RIA G.I. .45. I sure don't think I should be able to limit 9mm Glock users to seven rounds. Diversity is beautiful. So is freedom of choice.