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Ranson, WVCDL Alert: City Council Meeting July 1

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  1. Bubbles

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    As we have reported here several times this week, the Ranson City Council is considering a full-frontal assault on our right to keep and bear arms and West Virginia’s municipal gun control preemption law in the form of a proposed ordinance that would prohibit the otherwise lawful carrying of a firearm on any city-owned property.

    Yesterday, we sent city officials a 2-page letter detailing how their proposed ordinance violates the state preemption law and exposes law-abiding citizens to criminals who love nothing better than disarmed victims (a term many of us would consider redundant).

    Now, we need YOU to take action.

    The Ranson City Council meets Tuesday, July 1, 2008, at 7 PM at Ranson City Hall, located at 312 South Mildred Street in Ranson.

    Mark your calendars and plan to be seen and heard. We must tell Ranson that we will NOT stand for ANY infringement of our rights. More importantly, we need to make a strong presence to show other municipalities that gun owners will not be treated like second-class citizens, anywhere, anytime.

    We will provide more information, including links to driving directions, as this meeting approaches.

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    Jim Mullins
    President, West Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.
    Chairman, WVCDL-PAC
    president@wvcdl.org
    www.wvcdl.org
    www.wvcdl-pac.org

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    WVCDL-ALERT is a project of the West Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (WVCDL), an all-volunteer, nonpartisan grassroots organization dedicated to the promotion of the individual?s fundamental human right to self-defense.
     
  2. siglite

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    woot!

    http://www.journal-news.net/page/content.detail/id/507941.html?nav=5006

     
  3. Bubbles

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    Good. Now we need to go after Martinsburg's ordinance. I'm trying to find out when it was passed.
     
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    We're planning to go after all kinds of municipal bans/issues while the Legislature's out of session. I believe Jim mentioned something about Martinsburg. I do not believe they were grandfathered. Would you mind passing any info you dig up to me via PM, or even to Jim via email? He's jmullins at wvcdl dot org.
     
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    Can I ask what the martinsburg ordinance is? I'm up there fairly often, but have never carried in WV apart from on a friends property while doing renovations.
     
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    I found a reference to Martinsburg's ban, but I haven't seen the actual ordinance. The ban is referenced here in the original article alerting us of the Ranson City ban:

    http://www.journal-news.net/page/content.detail/id/507780.html?nav=5006

    Emphasis mine.
     
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    Sig, how much involvement did the NRA have in this situation? I wonder, because the NRA is always mentioned by name in the local press here before the grass roots group in Georgia every time an advancement in Amendment II interests is accomplished, irrespective of whether they ever helped with the effort, which is very seldom as far as I can tell. I was curious if the same held true in this case.
     
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    We honestly have no idea. I think it's safe to say that the NRA did not discuss it with us. Our first knowledge of the NRA's involvement came at the same time as everyone else's. Via media reports.

    But I know that the same people who brought this to our attention, also contacted the NRA. And I'm glad they did. The NRA wields a lot of weight. So any correspondence from the NRA will get a municipal government's attention.

    However, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, I'm running on the assumption that Jim Mullins (WVCDL) is 95-100% responsible for Ranson's rather wise decision not to violate WV's preemption.
     
  9. Bubbles

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    Actually I was the person mentioned by name in the WVCDL Alert as the one who send the first Journal News article to Jim. I didn't send it to the NRA as the local outcry seemed to be convincing Ranson to back down. :)

    If/when I find out anything about when Martinsburg enacted its ordinance, I will pass it along. The only visible indication I've seen of it are the "No Guns" signs on the doors to the courthouse, tax assessor's and planning offices (where you go to do your personal property tax), etc. When I saw the signs I thought it was a state ordinance, like the one prohibiting carry at the DMV, and not a local one, as I'm relatively new to the state.
     
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    I stand corrected! And now I'm even more curious about the NRA's involvement. But not too much. If they helped, great! It doesn't really matter in the end. What does matter in the end is that Ranson City's made the right choice.

    We're working on the DMV signs too. Those carry the same force of law (or lack thereof) as any private business which posts their property. I'm not saying or recommending that one should carry past them, but it's of interest that the DMV carry ban is not a legislative ban. It is a policy decision internal to the DMV. And Jim's been corresponding with the appropriate folks over there.
     
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    Thanks for the information. That's good to know.
     
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    It appears we're still on for Ranson on 7/1. We still need a strong showing of support there.
     
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    My husband and I plan on being in Ranson on the 1st. From the latest WVCDL Alert:

    1. WVCDL TO APPEAR AT NEXT WEEK’S RANSON CITY COUNCIL MEETING

    Yesterday, we learned that Ranson city leaders decided to drop their plans for an ordinance to ban carrying on city-owned property, in violation of West Virginia’s municipal gun control preemption law. We are keeping our plans to attend the July 1, 2008, city council meeting—this time to say “Thank You!” to officials who saw the light after we contacted them in opposition to their earlier proposal. The City Council will meet at 7 PM at Ranson City Hall. Ranson City Hall is located at 312 South Mildred Street in Ranson. A map and driving directions are available at tinyurl.com/58l9yg

    Let’s have a strong turnout and show not just Ranson but other local governments in the Eastern Panhandle that gun owners are serious about protecting our rights and enforcing West Virginia’s preemption law!


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    2. MARTINSBURG IS VIOLATING THE PREEMPTION LAW, HAS ILLEGAL CITY PROPERTY GUN BAN!

    The City of Martinsburg is violating West Virginia’s preemption law!

    We learned last week in the Martinsburg Journal article that alerted us to the proposed Ranson gun ban that Martinsburg has a similar ordinance and promised that we would investigate.

    Since 2005, Martinsburg City Code § 545.14 has provided as follows:

    (a) No person shall carry or possess a firearm or other deadly weapon, whether carried openly or concealed, on any public property or in any building owned, leased or under the care, custody and control of the City of Martinsburg or any political subdivision of the City of Martinsburg.

    (b) No provision of this section shall apply to those persons set forth in Section 545.03 (c) to (f) while such persons are acting in an official capacity, provided, however, that under no circumstances may any person possess or carry or cause the possession or carrying of any firearm or other deadly weapon on the premises of any primary or secondary educational facility in this State unless such person is a law enforcement officer or he or she has the express written permission of the County School Superintendent.

    (c) Any person carrying or possessing a firearm or other deadly weapon on any public property or in any building owned, leased or under the care, custody and control of the City of Martinsburg or any political subdivision of the City of Martinsburg who refuses to temporarily relinquish possession of such firearm or other deadly weapon, upon being requested to do so, or to leave such premises, while in possession of such firearm or other deadly weapon, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not less than one hundred dollars ($100.00) nor more than one thousand dollars ($1,000.00) for each offense and, in the discretion of the Police Court Judge, may be placed in jail for a term not to exceed thirty (30) days, or both.

    We just received a copy of this ordinance today and are planning our course of action.

    The Martinsburg City Council (www.martinsburg.com/city/cty.ccil.html) meets on the second Thursday of each month at 6:30 PM.
     
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    BTT - Reminder for tomorrow's meeting. We need a strong showing at the Ranson City Council meeting. A strong showing will send a strong message to Martinsburg, who apparently shares a city attorney with Ranson.

    It is at 7PM at Ranson City Hall, 312 South Mildred Street in Ranson.

    Hope to see you there.
     
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