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Rapper arrested for machine guns

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by yesit'sloaded, Oct 14, 2007.

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  1. yesit'sloaded

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    ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Rapper T.I. was arrested Saturday as he allegedly tried to add three machine guns and two silencers to what authorities said was an "arsenal" of weapons that, as a convicted felon, he was not allowed to own.

    The entertainer, whose real name is Clifford Harris, was arrested without incident in midtown Atlanta, Georgia.

    The entertainer, 27, whose real name is Clifford Harris, was taken into custody about 2:30 p.m. in Atlanta as he accepted delivery of the guns and silencers, the Department of Justice said in a statement.

    Three other guns were found in the vehicle he was driving, authorities said, and police executing a search warrant at his home in suburban College Park, Georgia, found six additional guns, five of them loaded, in his bedroom closet.

    "Machine guns pose a serious danger to the community, which is why they are so carefully regulated, said David Nahmias, U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Georgia.

    "The last place machine guns should be is in the hands of a convicted felon, who cannot legally possess any kind of firearm. This convicted felon allegedly was trying to add several machine guns to an already large and entirely illegal arsenal of guns." Video See video of a search of the rapper's home »

    The arrest came as a result of the cooperation of a witness who, after being arrested Wednesday, agreed to cooperate with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the DOJ statement said.

    The witness was arrested after he purchased the three machine guns and two silencers from an undercover ATF agent.

    The guns were not registered on the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record as required by law, and the witness -- who was worked as a bodyguard for Harris since July -- told authorities he was purchasing them for Harris, and had bought about nine guns for him previously, the statement said.

    On Wednesday, authorities said, Harris arranged for the witness to pick up $12,000 in cash from a bank to use in buying the guns. After being arrested and agreeing to cooperate with ATF, the witness had a series of phone calls with Harris, which authorities recorded, the statement said.

    It was arranged that Harris would pick up the guns after meeting the witness in a shopping center parking lot in midtown Atlanta. The arrest took place there without incident, the DOJ statement said.

    Police searched Harris' car and found three other guns, authorities said, "including one loaded gun tucked between the driver's seat where Harris had been sitting and the center console."

    Court documents in the case show that Harris was convicted on felony drug charges in Cobb County, Georgia, in 1998 and sentenced to seven years' probation. "Harris has additional arrests and at least one probation violation for unlawfully possessing firearms," according to an affidavit.

    Harris has dubbed himself the "King of the South." His music is built around the drug culture and is known as "trap music," or music to listen to while using drugs.

    Harris will be held in federal custody over the weekend and will apepar Monday before a magistrate judge, the DOJ statement said.
     
  2. GlowinPontiac

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    Lets see if his celebrity status and money can keep him out of federal prison.......
     
  3. Prince Yamato

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    Straw purchase, NFA violation, GCA '68 violation... he's going to jail for a decade at least. He's going to be the King of the South Cell-block now.
     
  4. zoom6zoom

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    That one will add a conspiracy charge or two.
     
  5. sithanas

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    Surprisingly well-written article, too.
     
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    Somebody is trying to CYA. Not saying he isn't guilty of straw purchases and a long list of other crimes but I smell a set-up.
     
  7. Loanshark

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    "machine guns pose a serious threat to the community" Not criminals, not convicted felons, not bodyguards, not SUVs, or steak knives, or Karaoke machines.... But Machine Guns! I mean, how many poeple in the US died on the business end of a machine gun in the last 40 years? I honestly don't know, but I bet more people died bungy jumping, or taking a *****, or having sex... Explain the serious threat to me PLEASE!!!!

    I'm so sick of the gun haters..... so SICK!!!!

    This used to be a free country... I'm at a loss for words when I think about what "we the people" have done!!!

    Have we been asleep at the wheel since the 1950's, or did it start before then??

    Maybe this isn't the best place for this rant... But I read that quote and I didn't even have a choice... my fingers just started typing...

    I hope you all will join me... It's time to send a wakeup call. I'm not going to spend time anywhere I can't carry... And I'm gonna make the government solve the problem... I'm calling the license bureau tomorrow and I'm gonna ask them how to renew my plates... Can't come to you becuase I could get arrested for posession of a firearm if I do, and I CARRY A FIREARM EVERYWHERE I GO. What are my other options? I don't have time to wait for the mail, my plates expire in 4 days, now what??

    I'm not going to the post office for any reason... If I need to ship it'll go UPS, or the like, or I'll mail it from home.

    I could go on but It's way past my bed time and I've rambled on enough so that you get the point

    So who's with me??
     
  8. sublimaze41

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    Loanshark,
    can't you leave your firearm in your car while renewing your plates? How much mortal will you be in for that short time. Hmmm plates expire in 4 days....and now it's their emergency?
     
  9. gunsmith

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    don't be a lazy linker! or cut and paster!

    http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1329654520071014

    links and story or you have to clean the old MK2 that has been shot a million times...


    By Matthew Bigg

    ATLANTA (Reuters) - Federal agents arrested Grammy Award-winning rapper T.I. on Saturday on charges of buying illegal machine guns, hours before he was due to star at a major hip hop awards ceremony.

    Agents from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) said they arrested the rapper in Atlanta as he took delivery of three machine guns and two silencers.

    "This convicted felon allegedly was trying to add several machine guns to an already large and entirely illegal arsenal of guns," David E. Nahmias, U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Georgia, said in a statement.

    "Thanks to the good and quick work of ATF, he is now in custody and his firearms have been seized," Nahmias said.

    T.I. was convicted of a violation of the Georgia Controlled Substances Act in 1998 and given seven years probation, the Department of Justice said.

    It is a federal offense for a convicted felon to have someone else purchase firearms on their behalf, Justice said.

    T.I., born Clifford Harris, was arrested at 2.30 p.m. EDT, the day he was due to perform at the BET Networks awards ceremony in Atlanta.

    He had been nominated for nine awards at the annual show -- more than any other artist. They included the prestigious MVP award for the best artist in the business as well as best CD of the year and best lyricist of the year. His failure to appear overshadowed one of the biggest events on the hip hop calendar and disappointed hundreds of fans who turned up to watch the elite of the hip hop industry.

    Many fans said they wanted to catch a glimpse of T.I. more than any other star.

    In the event, he won only CD of the year, an award he shared with the rapper Common for a separate album. Lil Wayne won the MVP award.

    T.I. spent two weeks at No. 1 on the U.S. pop chart this summer with his album "T.I. vs T.I.P.," his second chart topper within 18 months. The album sold 468,000 units in its first week, making it one of the biggest debuts of the year.

    The 27-year-old Atlanta native, who won two Grammy awards in February and was nominated for two others, is also co-CEO of Grand Hustle Records.

    T.I. was arrested after an undercover operation by ATF agents that started on October 2 when ATF agents learned an individual was seeking to buy machine guns without registering them, the Justice Department said in a statement.

    That individual, who turned out to be a bodyguard for the artist, was arrested on Wednesday after paying $2,200 for three machine guns, two silencers and a pistol.

    He said he was buying the guns for T.I., and with the blessing of ATF agents arranged to deliver them to T.I.'s house on Saturday.

    "Harris (T.I.) then agreed to meet and took possession of the machine guns this afternoon. He now faces serious federal charges and a potentially long prison sentence," the statement said, adding that T.I. would appear in court on Monday...Three other firearms were found in the vehicle T.I. was driving and during a search of his home in College Park six other firearms were found a bedroom closet.

    (Additional reporting by Dean Goodman in Los Angeles)
     
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    hard to feel sorry for him but I do anyway

    A drug felony, the war on some drugs really stinks.

    I wonder what kind of guns he was trying to get, and with his money, couldn't he have gotten his record expunged?
     
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    No victim = no crime. Hence this 'justice' is fundamentally unjust.

    His music probably sucks, but there's entirely too many stupid rules in a society that tells people what they can or can't ingest, and what they can or cannot own, when 50 years earlier people got on just fine without those rules.
     
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    What... they didn't arrest the machine guns and silences for using their evil mind control powers over this criminal rapper to force him, against his own will, to obtain them so they could make him kill little children and puppy dogs?
     
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    Jesse Jackson will probably take a troop of paid supporters to protest this guy's arrest.

    10 years? I'd be suprised if he does three. Remember, he's a disadvantaged minority.
     
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    I really want to know how this turns out. I would just die of laughter if Jesse and his posse somehow get the machine gun ban overturned for us using the disadvantaged minority claim. Can't you guys see this happening? He claims 2nd A rights to own the machine guns, the Jesse and Sharpton show get involved, people overturn the machine gun ban because of it's civil rights angle, and we get to have machine guns again.
     
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    ...ouch. This isn't some wanna-be guy who's got a demo tape, which a lot of "musicians" in news articles turn out to be. He's a seriously popular performer with a substantial career. And he's just gently caressed himself, as they say on Something Awful. The ATF is going to nail his tuchis to the wall. I wonder if he was just collecting, or shooting. Could be a reminder of his street days, the kid inside trying to be a real hard man.

    It's a darn stupid thing for him to have done, but I honestly feel a little sorry for him. Come on, man, you're off the corner, you're out! Can't you make better choices than that?
     
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    I would also like to know who the "victims" of this crime are.
     
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    from 'loanshark' :

    I think that you really hit the nail on the head when you extracted that remark out of an otherwise beign article. The media always has to get a shot in against weapons.
     
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    For all those complaining about the inclusion of a quote, i.e. something the writer cannot make up on their own, you should really read the rest of the article. It is suprisingly informative.
     
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    Violations by the anointed

    It seems to me an agent of the government or someone under their direction, committed a felony by, however briefly, 'transferring' knowingly an NFA item without proper approval, tax payment, forms, background check, etc.
    You know you are living in a police state when it's legal for some animals to be more equal than others. So much for equality under the law.

    Considering how infrequently NFA regulated items (even unregistered contraband items) are used in crimes one has to wonder how much money the government wastes creating criminals via entrapment and then fills up space in prisons that might better be used on real criminals. Far from keeping us safer, this misallocation of LE resources gives space for real violent predators to quietly wreak havoc with less glamorous means and methods.

    No one ever lost bureaucratic budget by showboating.
     
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    Other issues aside, I find it interesting that although they didn't identify the "witness" by name, they certainly provided enough information about him for ol' T.I.'s buddies to figure out who the snitch is. I hope the witness protection program is in good shape, because I think the "authorities" just sold this dude out.
     
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    I think Chevy is going to have to stop airing their comercials with him and Dale Jr finally.
     
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    No , they'll just make new commercials featureing them totin machineguns ,. How about featuring a Nascar with twin 50's on the hoods . Yes I know its not very Highroad but I couldn't resist (growing up in the hood I WISH I had twin 50's on my 70 Dodge Monaco) .
     
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    He has money. Little or no jail time.
     
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    The way I read it, this dude's a rat, not a witness. He provided the info, the dude got caught red-handed -- they don't need him as a witness any more.

    We can crow and say he (the rat (or the rapper)) got what's due to him... but does any of this sound right? Reasonable? Moral?
     
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