Rare Nagant Splice?

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Buck Kramer

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Hey guys I was wondering if anyone else has seen this type of splice before. I could not find it on 7.62x54r.net. I got this stock from AIM in a 3 pack a while back and it was literally molding and reaked of mildew its cleaned up now but I've never seen a left receiver wall stock splice, it even has 2 nails through the splice.
 

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Not specifically that exact one in that precise spot, but you can find stock repairs here & there on many Mosins. It's far from uncommon.
Done as part of the refurb program after the war.
Doesn't make the gun rare or more valuable. Less valuable, actually, to a buyer or collector who wants a more "pristine" sample.
Denis
 
Is it a M39? I read on some post that a splice on an M39 meant it was used during war time. Probably wrong, but never know.
 
Is it a M39? I read on some post that a splice on an M39 meant it was used during war time. Probably wrong, but never know.

That's referencing a splice in a different area. The M39 stock is a front and back half attached with a finger joint. The shape of the fingers is a way to determine if the stock was made during wartime, after, or in a transitional stage in-between.
 
Its a normal prewar stock with the screw in escutcheons. But it's about an inch longer than my other 91/30 stocks, which confuses me. I knew either Turtlephish or LJ-MosinFreak-Buck would help me out here :)
 
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I have seen quite a few stock repairs like that. I may have one but I don't feel like digging into the safe right now. It was common for the Russians and Finns to repair a damaged stock like that......chris3
 
Its a normal prewar stock with the screw in escutcheons. But it's about an inch longer than my other 91/30 stocks, which confuses me. I knew either Turtlephish or LJ-MosinFreak-Buck would help me out here :)

Ha! :D
Glad to help.

The combination of "prewar" and "inch longer" point to the stock originally being from an M91, though the M91 stock is about 2.5" longer than that of the 91/30.

This is an interesting rifle.
 
Great info! I know splices are common, all of my stocks except 1 have them. I have never seen this splice before though.
 
THAT splice just happened to be where the stock took a bullet, got a chunk knocked out somewhere along its way, or sustained damage in some other manner.
Stock repairs can be, and are, literally anywhere & everywhere on individual Mosin samples.

Yours is unique in the location of that "splice" only in the sense that it happens to have a repair in that exact spot. It wasn't a mass-produced thing, it wasn't a model or year-specific thing, it's just a repair.
The repair in itself adds nothing to the rifle beyond a bit of character. :)

I may be mis-reading your posts, but if you're thinking your rifle is a "rare", as in desirable or valuable, variation solely because of the replaced section, it's not.

I've seen Mosin stocks with little sections of wood fitted in here & there all over.
Those with original factory spliced-on sections at the butt end were done on new stocks, little (and even not-so-little) inserts elsewhere don't add any desirability as re-furbed repairs.
Denis
 
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Nope, I've been around mosins enough to know unless it's the really cool stuff like the ex-dragoons, dragoons, Finns, or Finn captures there's no real value added. I just though it was cool. It does add a little more value for me personally though.
 
Turtlephish:

I think you are right it used to be a stock for a M91. The cap on the end of the rifle is really square compared to my others and the 91/30 buttplates are a little too big to fit. This seems more curved.
 
I've tried to avoid multi-piece stocks, myself. :)
Returned one years ago that was spliced.
Everybody has their own preferences.
Denis
 
The PU mount is farther forward than this repair.

These photos don't show enough to say for certain that the stock came off an M91; there's plenty of variation in the size and shape of 91/30 stocks. You could take off the buttplate and see if there's a date underneath.
 
I think you are right it used to be a stock for a M91. The cap on the end of the rifle is really square compared to my others and the 91/30 buttplates are a little too big to fit. This seems more curved.

The end caps for the 91/30 stocks were square for the first few years of production. Buttplates were also made in a couple of sizes.

There really isn't any way to know for sure, but I think it's likely to be an ex-M91 stock.
 
Most likely a repair for a crack at the wrist. Not uncommon for Mosin nagants.

A long crack dosent stop a stock from being used with a little help with such, most likely an arsenal repair.
 
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The stock is pretty thin there...not that uncommon to have a repair in that location.
Here's one on a Finn m27, and on the other side on an m39...
 

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My M-44 had a crack in the stock in that exact spot. Apparently, for whatever reason, damage to that area wasn't uncommon. I have heard of more than a few with either damage to that area, or repairs to that area.
 
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