Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Axis II, Aug 14, 2017.
how do you do that? I put the die in and screw in and put the collet in until it stops and then loosen until the bullet goes in and then tighten down. its grabbing right around the cannelure and slipping right off the ogive.
Call RCBS. They are experts at setting it up and using it.
Some bullets don't give you much to grab onto. Nonetheless, I was able to pull some really slick moly-coated 9mm 125gr. RN with mine that according to RCBS it won't pull. If you can't get it with the RCBS you'll have to use an inertia puller (good luck with that).
(Just noticed that Spell Check doesn't know the word "collet". Huh. Dictionary must have been compiled by silly girly-man with no recognition of real tasks in the real world.)
For your particular roll crimp it may not help, but (sometimes) load the cartridge into your Seater Die (yes) and seat the bullet a half a tenth deeper to 'break the seal'. Then pull it with the collet. It helps.
SOMETIMES if 4227 doesn't burn completely, we may be using a light load. Drop down to Blue Dot or N-110 or similar slightly faster powder to get good velocity with a more complete burn, without having to crimp so hard. Or what the heck, keep your 4227 load with a heavy roll crimp if that's the best, you very seldom have to pull a bunch of XTP, it doesn't happen often. Your choice, you know what's best for you.
Also if the bullets are really crimped, seat them just a tad more to help break it free,
Sometimes the good old kinetic "hammer" is worth the time if not too many.
about 10. I loaded some up for someone who barrowed the rifle during deer gun season and found them in a jar in the garage so i figured it was corrosion. if all else fails ill buy a hammer.
For only 10 I would have been done a long time ago with a hammer.
I only bought the collet puller in several calibers as I got a whole box lot of hundreds of loaded ammo with good xtp bullets in 357, 44 mag, 45 acp but there was no daya on how they where loaded, Even with the press mounted puller it was a PITA. Who ever crimped them over did it!!
I specialize in screwing up to a large degree. I started with the hammer but after having about 30 rounds to break down decided I needed something better. I think the RCBS collet puller is as good as it gets, but yes, when you have hundreds to do it's still a chore, just a less obnoxious one.
I went tonight and got a Frankfort arsenal hammer puller and man does this suck! I pulled 5 xtp bullets in about 20min and my hands got a freaking caulis! I had a choice of cabelas, Frankfort or lyman and I chose the Frankfort cause it was way cheaper, good reviews and a steel shaft. I cam a hair of taking it back because the collets must be put together and then hold it on and try and thread the cap on it which I thought was a giant pain in the behind but I got it done. another thing I disliked is the cap comes undone every 3 hits and needs to be tightened again.
As the old saying goes, it doesn't matter whether you decide you can or cannot - you end up being right.
So right!!! Sometimes you bite the green weenie, sometimes it bits you.
Ray is right. You chart your own course, then your row it.
If it is a small quantity, break them down if you want, it's up to you.
already broken down. breaking them down or not wasn't an option as i didn't know what was in them and didn't want them mixed in with anything else. when i pulled them i took them downstairs and weighed the charge and my hunting load is max charge of imr 4227 and these weighed out at middle data. still would have been safe but better to check first.
i used an old tree stump. I would say 20-30 wacks and they were pulled.
Its density is PERFECT for the inertia puller. It dislodges the bullet but doesn't damage the hammer.
The perfect inertia energy transfer medium. Well, I guess that's not a surprise, given its intended use.
Hockey puck. Simple. Cheap. Lasts a lifetime. It works.
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