RCBS Trim Mate or Dillon Super Swager?

[SingleStack]

Howdy, been lurking here for several weeks. This is the best forum I've found of its kind. Anyway, just happy to be here....

For my first post I'd like to pose a question:

I currently use a RCBS primer pocket swager in a single-stage press to remove the pp crimp from military 5.56 brass. The RCBS swager works well, but is slow due to the time and caution required to line up the small neck opening of 5.56 brass with the swager die guide rod.

I'm considering two alternatives for the job: The Dillon Super Swager and the RCBS Trim Mate with mil. crimp remover bit.

Ideally I would like feedback from someone here who has used both machines for removing pp crimp. Still it would be great to hear from those who've used each respective machine. Thanks!

 

[Citadel99]

I have a Trim Mate and haven't used the Dillon. Do a search for Trim Mate and you'll see nothing but positive feedback. It makes the steps a breeze. I highly recommend it.

Mark

 

[loadedround]

I have used the Dillon Super Swager more than several times to swage out the military crimp. It works very well but seems to me that it is also slow and on the expensive side for the few times you will use it. I have not used the other two so I can't comment on them.

 

[Glock9]

I've been using the C&H Swagger. It's less expensive then the dillon and easier to use then the RCBS. Here is a link to their site (look under priming tools ) and a link to a review of it

http://www.ch4d.com

www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/squeezeplay2/index.asp

Glock9

 

[DaveInFloweryBranchGA]

I've used both the Dillon swager (My buddy owns one.) and I currently own a RCBS Trim Mate. I like how the RCBS treats the brass much better, it seems to do less structural damage to the whole cartridge, if that makes sense. I'd swaged some 30.06 with my buddy's Dillon swager and found the primer hole seems to loosen up prematurely, while my RCBS does not. BTW, I bought the RCBS a good while after using the Dillon, because I didn't like the way the Dillon affected my brass and how the brass performed long term.

Also, the Trim Mate has many other useful features, such as the primer pocket cleaning brushes and other attachments one can add to automate other tasks, such as chamfering the mouth of the brass. So to sum up, it's been a much more versatile tool than the Dillon can be. I highly recommend it, as much because of the versatility as the nice way it cleans up the crimped primers.

Regards,

Dave

 

[SingleStack]

Thanks, guys; I appreciate the feedback. Dave's argument was convincing and I'm going to try the RCBS TM with the crimp remover bit.