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  1. alan

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    OPINION RELEASE: How Come It's Still 1984? by Vin Suprynowicz


    Subject: How Come It's Still 1984? by Vin Suprynowicz

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    "The Duty of a Patriot is to Protect his Country from the Government."
    -Freedom had been Hunted round the Globe - Reason treateded as Rebellion;
    - and the Slavery of Fear - had made - Men Afraid to Think.-
    But such is the irresistible nature of truth,
    - that all it asks,- and all it wants,- is the liberty of appearing.-
    ~ Thomas Paine,Rights of Man, 1791 ~
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    http://www.lewrockwell.com/suprynowicz/suprynowicz20.html
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    How Come It's Still 1984? by Vin Suprynowicz

    Why are the Democrats - the party of my youth
    - so widely dismissed as pathetic poseurs these days?

    Let's see. George W. Bush makes a big speech
    about how America promotes democracy throughout the world.
    How do the Democrats respond?
    By pointing out that our Founding Fathers purposely set us up
    with a Republic, while strongly warning against direct "democracy"
    as nothing but "mob rule," likely to vote the constitutional rights
    of minorities out of existence at the first opportunity?

    Of course not.

    Do Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi - sitting there stiff-backed,
    our modern equivalents of Herman and Lily Munster
    - calmly acknowledge, "OK, if Mr. Bush can figure out a way
    to promote participatory government in the Mideast, we'll admit
    that's a good idea and we'll do what we can to support him,
    even if we think selective bombardment and invasion
    under false pretenses should not be our preferred opening gambit.

    "But let's be honest about this: It was a Republican administration
    that sent in Major Smedley Butler and the U.S. Marines to overthrow
    the democratically elected government of Nicaragua, forcing
    the legislature in Managua to sign a peace treaty in English
    as American warships loomed offshore, a treaty giving us the right
    to run the Nicaraguan railroads under the laws of the state of Maine.

    "It was a Republican administration that overthrew the popular
    government of Mohammed Mossadegh, the 'weeping mullah,' in Iran
    in 1953, re-installing the Pahlavi shahs, whose secret police
    surely ranked them among the most repressive despots in recent history.

    "Let's not even get started on the regime-change assassinations
    we backed in places like Chile and Vietnam, as little as 30
    and 40 years ago. And if we're so in favor of democracy and
    self-determination, why is President Bush making nice with KGB
    assassin Boris Putin, when just last week the Russian special forces
    murdered Aslan Maskhadov, the last elected president
    of independent Chechnya?

    "If we're really going to change our stripes now, a good start
    might be to acknowledge to our own people the things we did
    that caused our government to be so widely feared,
    hated and distrusted, out there in the world at large."

    Do the Democrats say any of this? Not in public, they don't.
    And why?
    Because they're complicit.
    The Democrats have signed on to the old way of doing things;
    Bill Clinton set out on many a foreign lark (albeit far less
    effectively, being the distracted dilettante he was).
    They have no principled alternative plan or world-view to offer.

    Loyal opposition? The only thing the modern Democratic Party
    can find to "oppose" are such irrelevant cosmetic features
    as the churchgoing habits and adopted Texas drawls of the ancient
    Connecticut banking family known for more than a century
    as the Prescott Bush clan, while shrieking about
    "tax cuts for the rich," when this other set of elite millionaires
    who hasn't done their own grocery shopping in decades
    secretly defines any private-sector slob who works hard enough
    to own a house as "rich."

    The only guy they could find to run against Bush was another,
    less adept Yalie poseur from Skull & Bones, and the only "agenda"
    they have to offer is to require us to ban smoking,
    use helmets and seatbelts, sort our garbage into different colored
    baskets, and hand over our foreign policy to Jacques Chirac
    and Kofi Annan. Meanwhile, they block economic development
    anywhere in this country under the rubric of "smart growth"
    and protecting any "geographically distinct population"
    of scraggly weed or bug their babbling ecofreak subsidiaries
    can locate.

    Oh, and - of course - ever higher taxes.

    Some "alternative."
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    Las Vegas police Lt. Steve Franks is concerned about the midnight
    smash-and-grab theft of 1,700 blank Nevada driver's licenses
    from the DMV office on Donovan Way on March 7
    - along with a digital camera and all the other paraphernalia
    necessary to turn them into realistic IDs - asserting last week
    the purloined documents could easily be used to pass through
    airport security checkpoints, etc.

    Kind of like the way all those Arab hijackers
    got through our security checkpoints by showing their fake IDs,
    three-and-a-half years ago?
    This follows the conviction last year of a Nevada DMV clerk
    who took $300,000 in bribes to sell unauthorized licenses
    and IDs to some 1,000 illegal aliens - that they know of.

    So, do we have this straight?

    All that billion-dollar "check-your-ID" crap at the airport
    has improved our safety and security not one iota, instead
    accomplishing nothing but creating jobs for thousands
    of new blue-gloved butt-gropers-in-training while further conditioning
    the American populace to be ready to show our
    "government-issued photo ID" on demand, any time, anywhere,
    and ...

    The "driver's license" is nothing of the sort,
    but rather constitutes the nine-digit nationally coded
    "internal passport and travel document" which Franklin Roosevelt
    solemnly promised our Social Security numbers
    would never be turned into?

    Just checking.

    March 16, 2005

    Vin Suprynowicz [send him mail] is assistant editorial page editor of the
    daily Las Vegas Review-Journal and author of The Black Arrow.

    Copyright © 2005 Vin Suprynowicz

    Links referenced within this article

    Vin Suprynowicz
    mailto:vsuprynowicz@reviewjournal.com
    send him mail
    mailto:vsuprynowicz@reviewjournal.com
    The Black Arrow
    http://www.libertybookshop.us/mall/TheBlackArrow.htm?Ref=LEW

    posted Wednesday, 16 March 2005

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  2. neoncowboy

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    Interested in the adolescent musings of the confused?

    Nope.
     
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    I know certain people on this site and others get a lot of responses, both positive and negative. Obviously, there are those who are "Interested in the adolescent musings of the confused".

    :rolleyes:

    Myself, I'm not quick to dismiss anything written by Vin.
     
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    I think he makes some interesting points, though I wouldn't agree with his brief assessment of Chile. We certainly didn't get what we bargained for with Pinochet, but we were trying to stop the incursion of Communism into Chile. It is easy to look back after something has happened and say we should have done something different. Instead, if a Communist dictatorship had taken root in Chile, we would have been bashed for letting this happen.
     
  5. alan

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    I wonder if I should have posted the last part of Vin's piece more prominently. Should that be the case, same follows below. Re recently passed legislation, and the way it was pushed through, in The Senate, a non-germane, undiscussed rider to "must pass" legislation, that possibility seems especially appropriate.

    Las Vegas police Lt. Steve Franks is concerned about the midnight
    smash-and-grab theft of 1,700 blank Nevada driver's licenses
    from the DMV office on Donovan Way on March 7
    - along with a digital camera and all the other paraphernalia
    necessary to turn them into realistic IDs - asserting last week
    the purloined documents could easily be used to pass through
    airport security checkpoints, etc.

    Kind of like the way all those Arab hijackers
    got through our security checkpoints by showing their fake IDs,
    three-and-a-half years ago?
    This follows the conviction last year of a Nevada DMV clerk
    who took $300,000 in bribes to sell unauthorized licenses
    and IDs to some 1,000 illegal aliens - that they know of.

    So, do we have this straight?

    All that billion-dollar "check-your-ID" crap at the airport
    has improved our safety and security not one iota, instead
    accomplishing nothing but creating jobs for thousands
    of new blue-gloved butt-gropers-in-training while further conditioning
    the American populace to be ready to show our
    "government-issued photo ID" on demand, any time, anywhere,
    and ...

    The "driver's license" is nothing of the sort,
    but rather constitutes the nine-digit nationally coded
    "internal passport and travel document" which Franklin Roosevelt
    solemnly promised our Social Security numbers
    would never be turned into?

    Just checking.

    March 16, 2005

    Vin Suprynowicz [send him mail] is assistant editorial page editor of the
    daily Las Vegas Review-Journal and author of The Black Arrow.

    Copyright © 2005 Vin Suprynowicz

    Links referenced within this article

    Vin Suprynowicz
    mailto:vsuprynowicz@reviewjournal.com
    send him mail
    mailto:vsuprynowicz@reviewjournal.com
    The Black Arrow
    http://www.libertybookshop.us/mall/...row.htm?Ref=LEW

    posted Wednesday, 16 March 2005
     
  6. Baba Louie

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    So Vin is a gun owning/shooting newspaper writer who also practices his first amendment rights daily/weekly and takes all of his civil rights much more seriously than our elected officials (surprise)... he regularly lays into them Sunday mornings. Makes bookmarking the LVRJ almost worthwhile.

    http://www.reviewjournal.com/index.html

    Having lived in Las Vegas the past 20 something years, I find it kind of funny/scary/enlightning to know that the RJ has an assistant editor who seems to think similar parallel thoughts to those hidden deeply in my own mind. Also note that the RJ is anything but liberal in their understanding of all things political... (that's the LV Sun's job) tho' they do give one or two columnists a chance to show the other side of the coin.

    I'm still waiting to read his take on the new-improved, lemon-freshened, terrorist-proof-no-wait-gotcha-ya-dirty-American-citizen National SuperDuper ID (RealID)

    http://www.unrealid.com/

    Even if he writes about it, It won't really change anything... but it might wake up some few who don't really know that the slippery slope has been reached, breached and it's a long way down if ya wanna slide. (or even if ya don't wanna)

    Vin's take on the Minneapolis Gun Shop debacle...
    http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/May-15-Sun-2005/opinion/1552310.html
     
  7. Nazirite

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    Lets see Mr. Vin doesn’t like democracy but likes the republic our founding fathers originally set up. The republic where only white male landowners could vote. :scrutiny:
     
  8. alan

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    Baba Louie asked:

    "I'm still waiting to read his take on the new-improved, lemon-freshened, terrorist-proof-no-wait-gotcha-ya-dirty-American-citizen National SuperDuper ID (RealID)".

    If you take a look at ther tag end of the article I posted, I think you will find Vin's opinion of the legislation there. He seems not in favor thereof, which should not come as a surprise.

    As to othetr aspects of this thing, nothing will change, except for gfetting wporse, absent a greeat and ongoing storm of complaint from the citizenry. The citizens of this couinytry must start climbing up and down the backs of teir elected things, and keep doing same. Absent such action, nothing will change, for the better that it.

    I note that there seemed little adverse comment regarding enactment of H.R. 418, prior to it's enactment, and as I recall, and that was this Real ID Act of 2005.
     
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