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Ready to Load some .357 So Help would be GREAT

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by stavman11, Apr 16, 2013.

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  1. stavman11

    stavman11 Member

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    Ok just got Lucky and scored some Components for loading my .357

    WHOO HOO

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    No for some help from you PRO's

    As you can see i was ble to get a Few different items, some for Now, maybe some for 9mm loading later

    So considering what i picked up....
    H110
    TiteGroup
    Federal Small Pistol primers
    Remington no 5-1/2 Mag primers
    Sierra 170gr FMJ Bullets
    Remmington 158gr SJHP w/c
    Magtech 158gr LSWC


    What kinda Tips... Starting Points could you all give me for .357 and 38S

    Setting up my Secondary Lee Pro 1000 system Now... this will be just for Hand Loads where my Other is for .223 only
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    Thanks Guys... excited to work up some .357 and .38S Loads
     
  2. MtnCreek

    MtnCreek Member

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    H110, mag primers, 158 sjhp's and heavy crimp. Big Blast! :)
     
  3. IMtheNRA

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    Another vote for H110, mag primers, and 158gr bullets. I use Winchester JHPs with 14.4 grains of H110 and I get outstanding accuracy and a very fun boom and blast of flame from my 5 and 6 inch revolvers.
     
  4. ScratchnDent

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    4.7 gr Titegroup, standard primer, under a 158 LSWC is a nice plinker .357 load in my gun.
     
  5. stavman11

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    Awesome info so far Guys

    Hey does someone have a Link to the Case and Specs for a .357Mag

    Like COL
    Lee .357 load data....

    I cant really find much... came with the .38S info but need more on the .357 magnum
     
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  7. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

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    It is published in every reloading manual, along with complete reloading data..

    You need to Get Sum!

    I recommend the Lyman #49 manual for starting your education.

    rc
     
  8. stavman11

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    I have looked at all the manuals... they all look different so never got any of em....LOL


    have some great info already.....


    Lee Pro is set up... Just need ta setup Dies and start some test loads.... Think Ill do the H110 ist.... and go from there

    Fun Times
     
  9. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

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    Well, that will be your first reloading mistake. ... LOL

    More to follow! .... ROFLMAO.

    LOL!!!

    rc
     
  10. stavman11

    stavman11 Member

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    well.... 5hrs later... we have some Success

    Here is a Chronological Visual description of my Progress :cuss:
    Right to Left.....

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    Last 2 have Powder in them...LOL... Shiny 2 on FAR FAR left are factory loads.. :D

    Not too bad of Trial and error... the .223 GROWING Pains for sure helped here..

    Did Learn... switch back and forth to .38s and .357 WONT happen... pain in the ARSE!!!..... Even think if I do end up loading 9mm.... an Entire Loader is the best Option...


    GREAT day today.......On my way ta hand gun loading...

    ended up trying H110.... at about 14.9gr with 158gr Lead.... and Mag Primers....... Think Ill do about 18-24 and STOP... Mixed SJHP lead and LSWC .... And hope i dont Blow up my Gun....LOL

    :D
     
  11. Match10

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    Son, you need to have someone teach you directly... LOL

    Get some manuals and READ them.... LOL

    Seriously. Before you get hurt. RLOL
     
  12. CPLofMARINES

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    IMtheNRA: Question, I am still reading and reading, have
    Not started yet, but I'm wondering why your load of 14.4 gr.
    Of H110 over a 158gr. Win. SP is way below the suggested
    Starting grain according to Lyman 49th ? I see the 170gr.
    Cast starts at the 14.4 gr. Just trying to understand all
    This. Thank you for any help with this.

    Semper Fi
     
  13. CPLofMARINES

    CPLofMARINES Member

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    My bad, I meant Win. JHP
     
  14. 41 Mag

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    Yep I see the things you are so happy to have, but I see nothing what so ever resembling a manual. There are things you learn by trial and error in life, but handloading isn't one of them. If you don't understand what 20,000psi will do in your hands when it comes apart, you really don't have any business messing with it.

    Start with the manuals and you will understand.
     
  15. PlaneJain

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    If you have any value to your eyesight, face, hands, and life, I suggest you throw away every bullet you have made so far, and read read read. You are seriously going to get hurt if you keep going on the way you are doing.
     
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    I am also fairly new to reloading, I got my starting load from someone on this forum before I got any books. To be honest with ya'll, i've learned more from the folks on this forum than I have in the books I bought.

    I'm surprised someone hasn't given tips on how to set bullet depth or Hey don't pull the handel so hard to crimp?
     
  17. IMtheNRA

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    CPLofMarines - Hi there!

    I don't have a Lyman manual, but I'm not surprised by the variation among different manuals. For the 158-gr JHP bullet, my Speer #13 lists the range of 13.9 to 15.5 of H-110, and my Hornady #7 has a range of 12.7 to 15.6

    Of course, none of these are for Winchester brand of bullet specifically, so I just had to assume that my bullet is not too different from the Speer and Hornady JHP tested for these manuals.

    I loaded many, many test charges during load development and picked 14.4 based solely on accuracy at 25 yards.

    I chrono'd these loads from a 5" S&W revolver and got this 8-shot data on a 70-degree day:

    Average vel = 1060 fps
    SD = 9
    ES = 29

    So basically, I figured that I'm in the safe load range even though my specific bullet is not listed in any of my manuals or the Hodgdon online data center.
     
  18. Jesse Heywood

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    If you can only buy one manual, Lyman is the first one to buy. Don't be bothered by the differences between the loads, first you need to learn the basics of reloading. Another good move is to take a class, if offered at your local gun shop. By all means, learn everything you can before you make a regrettable mistake.
     
  19. zxcvbob

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    You're gonna kill yourself at this rate, or worse yet blow up a good gun. ;) Seriously, you need to find some help. You shouldn't have crushed more than one case. And get some different powder; you picked 2 of the worst for a beginner. 2400 would be a good one for .357 Mag, and Bullseye or Unique for .38 and 9mm. Or Herco for all of them, but you'll run out of room in the 9mm with Herco (not totally a bad thing)
     
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    "Stupid is as stupid does"
    It's how nature culls the heard :(
     
  21. knighthawk-72

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    Stavman11 you really need to get a manuel and read it. I just started reloading my self with a manuel next to me. After I read it my first 100 came out great no crushed ones. And I still am reading to get more info. on reloading. The guys on here are giving you some good info. by getting your self a manuel. We all just want you to be safe and see that your next post ain't my gun is in pieces. Or worrse like I am missing my hand.
     
  22. 32_d3gr33s

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    wow this scares me. When i started reloading (not very long ago) i had no mistake rounds like that. I had a couple bullets that werent seated deep enough, but that was it. Im scared for his hands... and face... and gun. and....
     
  23. stavman11

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    Kids Kids Kids

    Thanks for all the concerns.... But Ive been Loading for quite a bit now with .223... and no issues yet... all My limbs and Guns in Tact....LOL

    Reason for crushed cases are the Lee pro 1000 is for 38S... to run .357 ya need to back the Priming die and bullet seater out to accommodate the taller Case... so this took some Trial and ERRORS...:D

    Hodgson itself show H110 starting at 158gr at 15gr... High of 16.7... So a 14.9 starting point should be good... Also I have a few friends who stated similar Bullet and h110 at 14.4-14.9... Measuer wouldnt do that.. only at 13.9 or 14.9.. so thats where ill start


    so again... thanks for the concerns... And yes I will end up gettimg a manual due to me doing More Pistol loading now and more Options are out there..But I didnt just wake up yesteray and find components and start LOADING... that was Saturday....:p;):D:neener:

    Back at ya ....

    Stav
     
  24. MtnCreek

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    Just keep in mind the type of mistakes that make for tough extraction in a rifle cartridge can distribute your pistol parts across the range. Any time you have a hiccup figuring out your press, make darn sure each case has a powder charge and only one powder charge.
    The rest of us would be grateful if you'd wear a blaze orange vest at the range that says
    Caution: Pistol Loading Noob
    Stay Back 100 Ft :)
     
  25. 32_d3gr33s

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    My .357 dies came with a washer that you place under the dies when switching from .38 to .357. It does not set it perfect, so a little adjustment is necessary, but definitely would prevent smashed casing like that.
     
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