krupparms
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You forgot one! It maybe the only gun you have or can afford!
Reality vs Fantasy: the case for .22 Carry
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Mike1234567
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^^^ That has nothing to do with the OP. 
ETA: Of course low cost is valid in many situations. Maybe I missed it but I don't get the idea from the original post that his choice was largely based on cost. It was based on concealability and effectiveness of .22LR.
ETA: Of course low cost is valid in many situations. Maybe I missed it but I don't get the idea from the original post that his choice was largely based on cost. It was based on concealability and effectiveness of .22LR.
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230therapy
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If you're on a seriously tight budget, sell the iPhone, TV and DVD player* and buy a used Glock 19.
* References the recent study of poverty where the poorest households had at least one TV, cell phone, and other goodies.
* References the recent study of poverty where the poorest households had at least one TV, cell phone, and other goodies.
22-rimfire
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Are you out of your mind? You can't apply logic to this kind of thing. The governement actually will provide you with a cell phone and I don't know hardly anyone that only has ONE TV anymore regardless of their income. Other goodies..... Xbox, etc. Yes, they have all of those things and probably a cell phone per person. You simply don't understand. They may be "poor" but most of the younger ones actually make money on the side one way or another that is not reported.
Ragnar Danneskjold
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But of course, they still need you to buy their health care for them. Those HDTVs don't buy themselves.
theicemanmpls
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I practice with my 21A at 7 yards. Mozambique drill! I do it backwards, 2 rounds to the melon, 1 round to COM, or boy parts.
I practice with my 21A at 7 yards. Mozambique drill! I do it backwards, 2 rounds to the melon, 1 round to COM, or boy parts.
exavid
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22-rimfire We only have one TV!
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22-rimfire
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I think Slicer said that actually.
Down deep I know I will probably hesitate in the "willing" part. That's just the way I am built. But if someone actually hurt me first, and I still have a means to defend myself aptly; I think the "willing" part goes away completely and it all depends on the "ready".
A lot of "poor" working people actually have less money to spend on "things" than the subsidized folks. These folks have a rough road to hoe.
Exavid, I confess, I have more than one TV in my house. One of my younger brothers used to tout his "no TV" status as something that demonstrated his intellectual abilities. He got married and now he has a TV for each kid along with several general use sets.
The Smith&Wesson Gov. answers the close range personal protection needs.
Each trigger squeeze is throwing out 4 pieces of '000' buck (900-800 fps) at most defensive handgun engagement ranges it should prove to be the better choice in the long run.
Each trigger squeeze is throwing out 4 pieces of '000' buck (900-800 fps) at most defensive handgun engagement ranges it should prove to be the better choice in the long run.
JohnBT
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"The best one of course is it's the only firearm you own and it beats throwing rocks.)"
That would depend on the size of the rocks, wouldn't it? I'm thinking of a big bucket of baseball- or grapefruit-sized rocks.
Do people acutally go around asking folks, "Can I shoot you with my .22?" :banghead:
That would depend on the size of the rocks, wouldn't it? I'm thinking of a big bucket of baseball- or grapefruit-sized rocks.
Do people acutally go around asking folks, "Can I shoot you with my .22?" :banghead:
JRH6856
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Which pocket do you carry that in?
MCgunner
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This discussion is getting a bit weird. But, then, don't they all eventually?
allaroundhunter
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What if them hurting you takes you out of the fight and you have just left your family completely vulnerable?.....The thought of having to take another human life is not an easy one, nor is the decision to actually carry through with it, but if you understand that you are the only thing between a threat and your family the decision should be quick and easy.
aaronu
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Every concealable gun and ammunition choice is a compromise somehow. All of them make some trade off of power, penetration, "stopping power", felt recoil, concealability, et cetera ad infinitum.
We're all just playing the odds. Some carry mouse calibers because the odds change when one is less capable with or intimidated by more powerful guns. Those people are probably better off with a lighter caliber. Others (like the OP) are new to the game. It makes sense to me to initially learn on a .22 and later move up to something more effective. I'd bet that the majority of people even on this forum started out shooting a .22LR.
Firearms-knowledgeable folks who choose to carry .22's are playing the odds that if and when they need to shoot, a mouse caliber will be enough. It's a personal choice thing. Carrying a .22 may not be the safest bet but it is a whole lot better than nothing and certainly not something we should feel the need to pass judgment on.
We're all just playing the odds. Some carry mouse calibers because the odds change when one is less capable with or intimidated by more powerful guns. Those people are probably better off with a lighter caliber. Others (like the OP) are new to the game. It makes sense to me to initially learn on a .22 and later move up to something more effective. I'd bet that the majority of people even on this forum started out shooting a .22LR.
Firearms-knowledgeable folks who choose to carry .22's are playing the odds that if and when they need to shoot, a mouse caliber will be enough. It's a personal choice thing. Carrying a .22 may not be the safest bet but it is a whole lot better than nothing and certainly not something we should feel the need to pass judgment on.
bigfatdave
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"lose", not "loose"
JohnBT
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"Firearms-knowledgeable folks who choose to carry .22's are playing the odds "
That's fine for knowledgeable people gambling with their own life. I draw the line at people making public statements that it's a smart move for anybody and everybody. That sort of talk could get a less knowledgeable person killed - someone who hasn't looked at the facts and weighed the odds.
John
That's fine for knowledgeable people gambling with their own life. I draw the line at people making public statements that it's a smart move for anybody and everybody. That sort of talk could get a less knowledgeable person killed - someone who hasn't looked at the facts and weighed the odds.
John
jogar80
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Hmm..... do you also have an ADT (or other alarm company) sticker on your front door and windows but no ACTUAL alarm system installed?
22-rimfire
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I'd also give the S&W Bodyguard 380 a good look.
allaroundhunter: Note to self. Repeat after me.... I'm willing, I'm willing....
allaroundhunter: Note to self. Repeat after me.... I'm willing, I'm willing....
RustHunter87
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i try to stay away form these threads but you catch a 22 hp in the gut it will bring you back to reality real Quick
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