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Recall campaign in Colorado

Discussion in 'Activism' started by JRH6856, Apr 30, 2013.

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  1. DanMar757

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    Great News - But has anyone seen this reported in the main stream media?

    Its funny how these types of stories always seem to be surpressed by the national media. The story doesn't really support their agenda, so why further it by reporting it?

    We need to continue these efforts everywhere we can to send a strong message to those that would separate us from our freedoms!

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  2. wingman

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    My understand is that Mayor Bloomberg has spent millions on anti-gun laws in Co., he seems to believe he must liberalize the country not just New York.
     
  3. longknife12

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    You just have to remember that Bloomie is not an outside interference!
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    Typical "head-in-the-sand" behavior from the media. If they can't see it, it doesn't exist. They do it with anything that falls outside of their preferred narrative.
     
  5. Old Fuff

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    True, but if the if the petition is certified it will be a lot harder to hide.

    Then some folks in other states that are city-dominated will start thinking. This is another reason that nothing is being reported.
     
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    Indeed. The state of Illinois and the Chicago Democratic Republic. Upstate NY vs NYC.
    Too many political, cultural and financial apple carts that could be overturned.

    The City states would quickly find that they are more dependent on the hinterland than the hinterland is on them. Watersheds are the first thing to spring to mind.
     
  7. Dframe

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    RINO Bloomberg is indeed trying to buy elections all over the country. He recently bought one in chicago. Spending huge money to elect a rabid anti-gun democrat over a more reasonable one.
     
  8. Queen_of_Thunder

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    Was wondering where one sends money to support the recall. I want to make a donation in Mayor Bloombergs name. In fact I'm going to send some to the NRA in his name.

    Can you folks in CO. keep us up to daye on how things are going and who we can support if the recall elections happen.
     
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    Signatures turned in for Giron...(second senator)

    DENVER | Gun-rights advocates submitted signatures Monday against a second Democratic state lawmaker in the escalating backlash against the Colorado legislature’s recently approved gun control bills.

    The recall group, Pueblo Freedom and Rights, reported delivering 13,570 signatures, about 20 percent more than the 11,285 needed to force a recall election of Democratic state Sen. Angela Giron of Pueblo.

    Ms. Giron, who voted in favor of three gun control bills that were ultimately signed into law, vowed to fight the recall effort at a Monday news conference and she ruled out resigning her seat.

    “This is what my constituents wanted,” said Ms. Giron, adding that she’s received support from firearms owners who support the gun bills.

    The Giron recall effort is the second to turn in signatures in the past week. Organizers submitted more than 16,000 signatures June 3 in an effort to oust Senate President John Morse, a Colorado Springs Democrat who helped lead the push for the gun-control bills.

    The secretary of state’s office is expected to announce Friday whether there are sufficient valid signatures to place Mr. Morse’s name on the recall ballot. The certification of either recall bid would mark the first recall election against a state legislator in Colorado history.

    The Colorado recall drives are being watched closely as a brewing national referendum on firearms laws in the wake of two U.S. mass shootings in 2012.

    “Colorado is becoming a backdrop for this issue to play out nationally,” said Denver pollster Floyd Ciruli. “There are national implications. There’s a movement afoot in Washington to bring back some of the gun bills, and they’ll be watching to see what happens here.”

    Organizers of the Giron recall stunned the state’s political establishment by collecting their signatures with volunteers, not paid petition-circulators. The grass-roots effort was led by three Pueblo plumbers, brothers Victor and Adam Head and Ernest Mascarenas.

    The Senate district is packed with Democrats, but many of them also own firearms, which made it relatively easy to gather signatures, said Pueblo Freedom and Rights president Victor Head.

    “We just set up our tents in parking lots and let people come to us,” said Mr. Head. “You didn’t have to talk anyone into anything, they just came and signed.”DENVER | Gun-rights advocates submitted signatures Monday against a second Democratic state lawmaker in the escalating backlash against the Colorado legislature’s recently approved gun control bills.


    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...crat-facing-recall-over-gun-vo/#ixzz2W2lC3q6K
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  10. MErl

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    this is a decent summary of the recall efforts:
    www.coloradostatesman.com

    Also has a bit at the end about Giron.
     
  11. RetiredUSNChief

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    I, too, hope people stand up and make their voices heard...loud and proud.

    However, don't consider it a done deal with respect to your comment about ruining the Democratic Party and control of the Senate.

    There are PLENTY of supporters of the Democratic Party out there, and it would be folly to dismiss them. Even if they lose ground in the next election cycle, they, too, will rally in an effort to regain control. It's cyclic in nature, and this is how politics works.

    Political parties, as entities, are inherently long-lived critters whose platforms outlive the individual members who make up the party. Obama...indeed ANY president...is just another cog in the gears of their respective political party machines. Even the charismatic presidents are part of a larger whole and not the be-all and end-all of their parties.

    A lot can happen between now and the next two national election cycles...and it wouldn't take much to swing some major support back to the Democrats again.
     
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    Well, we now have a second petition certified!
    www.9new.com
    Dan
    :cool:
     
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    At this point, you cannot. When the recalls were underway donations were accepted but now it is a waiting game. Once the actual recall elections get underway there will be campaigns to support if you wish.
     
  16. CoRoMo

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    I'm guessing that you mean... http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=342109
    I would like to know what are the boundaries for the governor's setting of the date. Ex: I'd hope he can't set the date out to 2016 or some such extreme.
     
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    I wish there was a recall underway that I could get in on in my district. My tar's getting cold and the dogs keep getting into the bag of feathers......
     
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    It would be a win for the entire country of you all remove the commies from office.
     
  19. cologuy

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    Rondog - If there's no recall in your district, start one. I can put you in touch with the guys who organized the recall here in Pueblo. Lots of work, but it seems to be paying off.

    Lawyers for Morse are challenging the exact wording of the petitions, trying to get them thrown out. Apparently there is some legal precedent here in CO that allows that, but since the wording of the petitions was downloaded directly from the Sec of State website (and developed during a Dem's tenure in that office), they might have a hard time. Anyway, if the courts determine that there are sufficient grounds to challenge the petitions, the whole thing could be tied up in court for months, since I doubt the Governor (Dem) would set a recall election date until the challenge was resolved. On the other hand, if the challenge is not effective, the Gov must set a recall election date no later than 90 days off. **Sigh***. With apologies to the lawyers on THR, I have to admit that Rondog's tar and feathers idea is sure looking like a quicker, more viable solution.
     
  20. cologuy

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    Giron's team is now also challenging the wording of the petitions. It will be interesting to see how this challenge comes out, and either way I expect some sort of court battle.

    In other news, Giron has taken some of the Washington DC and Denver money she's been given and hired a firm to call people who signed the recall petition and try to convince them to take their names off the petition voluntarily. The problem is that the callers aren't really explicit in who they are and what they're trying to do when they call, and basically if they can get you to agree to ANYTHING during the call they're counting that as permission to remove your name. So far I don't think they've removed more than a couple of names this way, and Pueblo Freedom and Rights and the local paper have done a good job of warning people (front page news, yesterday), so I don't think they'll have much luck with this method.

    And one more interesting fact: I got curious and looked it up, and Giron only got 24,800 votes in the last general election. Since the recall got over 13,000 signatures, and I doubt many "opposition" voters will turn out for a recall election (as compared to a general election), this thing might actually work, if the legal battle goes our way. Keep your fingers crossed for us.
     
  21. Old Fuff

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    You and others have done a super job with this, and in doing so have helped all of us.

    The Democrats cannot allow this to go forward, but at the same time it's going to cost them a lot of money to fight it - and no matter what that money won't be available later. You on the other hand have shown what can be accomplished by a grass-roots outfit with a limited budget. In other words, money alone won't cut it, especially if it comes from out of state.

    They can stall, but eventually the axe will fall. :uhoh:
     
  22. ngnrd

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    I wish you guys all the best in the recall.

    Go get 'em!
     
  23. Ryanxia

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    Keep up the good work! Keep us posted.
     
  24. MagnumWill

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    Forgive me since I misplaced the link, but it appear the appeals made by Morse and Giron's camps to deny the validity of the recalls were denied as of now...
     
  25. MErl

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    The appeals on the validity of the signatures were unsuccessful. There are still other challenges based on the wording of the petitions.

    Essentially enough people did sign the recall but the exact wording is now being questioned. If nothing more this is gonna make a few lawyers a good amount of money.
     
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