Recall campaign in Colorado

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I stand corrected. However, the NY State Senate is led by Republicans.

http://www.nysenate.gov/senate-leadership-list

If Republicans are so great and so pro-RKBA, how come they didn't monkey-stomp the recent gun control in NY, the most strict in the nation if I'm correct, when they had the chance? A united group of Republican NY state senators had the chance to stop this and didn't. There is no getting around that.
I'd trust a rural Montana Democrat a lot more than I'd trust a NY Republican.

And again, we need to stop pretending RKBA is a partisan issue.
 
I'd trust a rural Montana Democrat a lot more than I'd trust a NY Republican.

So would I. Just like the Democrats of old - before their party was taken by "Progressives" - there are a lot out there with their head on straight.
I agree that it's not a left or right issue, but the reality is that in today's climate when Democrats have the majority they run with it.
 
Article in Denver Post this week that Gov. Hickenlooper's approval rating is way down. With next years election the polls say only 42% say he should get a second term. 48% saying he should be gone. Primary feedback is most respondents stated it was due to his anti 2A implementaions
 
f Republicans are so great and so pro-RKBA, how come they didn't monkey-stomp the recent gun control in NY, the most strict in the nation if I'm correct, when they had the chance? A united group of Republican NY state senators had the chance to stop this and didn't. There is no getting around that.
I'd trust a rural Montana Democrat a lot more than I'd trust a NY Republican.

And again, we need to stop pretending RKBA is a partisan issue.

Actually the NY senate is 33 to 30 democratic, that link you provide only list the party leadership positions, but you're right in the R's didn't exactly put up a valiant resistance. State politics can get a bit weird in a state like NY and Cali the R's tend to be RINO's, just like in Alabama and Montana the D's tend to be DINO's. However, at the national level we know which party has been our friend.
 
The money - most likely to be spent on TV and radio advertisements - may influence some undecided voters, but it won't get to those that have a real stake in the issue. "Our side" is motivated by the knowledge that they have something to lose in both civil rights and material possessions. Liberal's money won't change their minds, and once spent it won’t be available for later elections in 2014 and 2016.

The important thing is to get behind "a" single candidate and support him or her.

Under-financed grass roots advocates were the ones that won the recall drive, and they can do it again.
 
It's nice to see that Bloomberg, a New Yorker, knows exactly what the residents of Colorado need.
That kind of arrogance sickens me.
 
I hope you guys are getting involved in this and spreading the word. Otherwise Bloomberg will prove that he can throw money into another state and control it's policies.
 
Just a quick update. You've all seen the previous posts concerning the money being spent to defend Giron and Morse, so I won't repeat that, other than to say that some of the numbers reported yesterday are actually kind of low.

Things are really heating up here in Pueblo. So far, there have been 13 lawsuits filed in conjunction with the recalls, several of which were filed against our local County Clerk and his election staff to force them to comply with Colorado election law. As a very vocal Dem in a predominantly Dem county, he's doing everything he can to hold things up or make them too complicated for people to comply with. In his latest effort, he's mailed out several thousand cards that will serve as "identification" at the polling places. The problem is that nobody can or will verify that these cards were sent to registered voters, or what criteria was used to determine who gets one of these cards. Anyway, according to the county clerk, if you have one of these cards in your possession, you don't have to show any other form of ID to vote, or even verify that you're the person named on the card!! It's obviously in conflict with the Colorado constitution and election laws, and he has to know that it won't be allowed to happen, but it's just an example of the confusion he's trying to create. And since I'll be working at one of the polling places, I'm sure we'll see at least a few confused voters show up with the cards, and I'm betting we see a few folks "sharing" their card outside the building. Anyway, the local recall group, Pueblo Freedom and Rights, intends to file a lawsuit today to get this corrected.

There's also a Giron supporter being brought up on criminal charges, for secretly recording a meeting of PFR volunteers without their knowledge. Apparently the Giron camp has been infiltrating the PFR and recording things for a while, but this guy got caught and spilled the beans. I'll let you know how this turns out.

If any of you are in the Pueblo area and haven't already contacted Pueblo Freedom and Rights, please do so ASAP. They've got lots of volunteers, but always need more, for anything from painting signs to answering phones to knocking on doors. Even an hour or two is helpful and appreciated. And if any of you other folks are going to be in southern Colorado in the next couple of weeks, stop in and volunteer a couple of hours - you don't have to be a local resident to help out!
 
If any of you are in the Pueblo area and haven't already contacted Pueblo Freedom and Rights, please do so ASAP. They've got lots of volunteers, but always need more, for anything from painting signs to answering phones to knocking on doors. Even an hour or two is helpful and appreciated. And if any of you other folks are going to be in southern Colorado in the next couple of weeks, stop in and volunteer a couple of hours - you don't have to be a local resident to help out!

If the response to this is positive it will likely run New York City's Mayor into the ground. We are about to see just how much people value their gun ownership rights. I’m also sure the advocates at the PFR can use all of the financial help they can get, and even small contributions can make a difference.

You don't like Bloomberg? Then don't just sit there, stand up and kick his butt! :cuss:
 
For some reason Facebook "suggested" a page for me today: a group that is opposing the recall elections in Colorado. I imagine that there is a lot of out of state influence on this page, but we still ought to remain aware of them (and their intended tactics) as the election day approaches.

Here's a link, for those of you who "Facebook":

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=401447273289438&set=p.401447273289438&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/DemandAction?hc_location=stream


The best part about reading their page was that the main page (the "suggested" post) had a pro-gun to anti-gun post ratio of probably at least 8:1 earlier tonight (guesstimate).

Remember, our opponents in this debate believe that they are serving a higher purpose by forcing these new laws upon us. They do NOT believe that they need to play fair, and they'll use dirty tactics to manipulate the results if they can! Stay vigilant, and lets hope that our friends in Pueblo/Springs get this done in a few days!
 
It would really suck if we lose. Can u imagine Bloomberg donating money to every anti- gun candidate next summer?
Even if we lose it still sends a message that anti gun reps may face another election to keep their seat. Even with Bloomberg's $$ it's risky.

Hopefully our Colorado brethren are working their asses off today, as they have been throughout this whole process.
 
It would really suck if we lose. Can u imagine Bloomberg donating money to every anti- gun candidate next summer?
I'm sure that was the implied if not outright promise made last spring.
 
I heard on the news last night that people are already messing around with the election and attempting to disrupt the process
 
Of course - Bloomers and his ilk cannot stand the idea of free and fair elections - goes against the grain. I hope all goes well in Colorado, and we will see Bloomers throwing his money in every state against every pro freedom official, and with every pro slavery one.

Checked CNN home page - story isn't even on the front page. Maine Lobster Has Six Claws is more newsworthy. I kid not.
 
I am 1500 miles away and is not newsworthy around here I guess. Is there any link to a live count in progress??
 
I am 1500 miles away and is not newsworthy around here I guess. Is there any link to a live count in progress??
I'd like to see the same. A search pointed to Fox as a news source, but they're not tracking turnout or anything. Just a blurb on the recall vote today.
 
Checked CNN home page - story isn't even on the front page. Maine Lobster Has Six Claws is more newsworthy. I kid not.
Well, of course! I mean, do you still charge by the pound, or is there an up charge for the extra claw meat?? Red Lobster is probably going crazy!

Seriously, though, it's already a victory just making them face another election, as said. Still, it would be amazing if both of them have to start packing tonight.

Good luck, guys!!!
 
Checked CNN home page - story isn't even on the front page. Maine Lobster Has Six Claws is more newsworthy. I kid not.
Now Zoidberg is the popular one! :)

Seriously though, good luck Coloradans, Maine is pulling for you, send those scumbags home and tell bloomie to get the <censored> out of any state that isn't moo yawk
 
Derek Zeanah said:
I'd like to see the same. A search pointed to Fox as a news source, but they're not tracking turnout or anything. Just a blurb on the recall vote today.

According to local radio station KVOR turn out is relativly high (given that only two parts of two cities can vote)
 
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