Recommend me a great battle .308 rifle!!

[lipadj46]

IMO a 308 isn’t necessary; 5.56 ammo weighs so much less, and the magazines hold more, and the guns are lighter.

Was anyone asking about 5.56? God knows we don't need another 5.56 vs. 7.62 thread. That horse is so beat it's not even amusing anymore. Sounds like the OP wants .308 not sure if he cares if it is necessary or not.

 

[Jason_G]

IMO a 308 isn’t necessary; 5.56 ammo weighs so much less, and the magazines hold more, and the guns are lighter.

It jest ain't the same...

Jason

 

[jpwilly]

IMO a 308 isn’t necessary; 5.56 ammo weighs so much less, and the magazines hold more, and the guns are lighter.

We'll 22lr weighs less than 223, magazines could hold more and the guns are really light too but that won't make them man stoppers. The 223 ain't bad but the 308 is far more versatile especially if you plan to hunt anything bigger than a coyote.

 

[helz_mcfugly]

Im also on the lookout for a .308 on an AR platform in the near future. I think Im going to go for the DPMS Panther kinda like jpwilly's up there only I want the 20" to 24" flooted BBL. those things ROCK!!

 

[Kind of Blued]

Can't go wrong with a SA M1A or a DSA FAL. Either platform can get you from a heavy duty long range gun to a short and handy carbine.

M1A:

 

[Golden Hound]

The same is also true of the G3 platform...which I will always plug for its absurd simplicity and rock-solid ruggedness. No gas system, and can be taken apart and put back together by an ape. With a collapsible stock you can turn it into a carbine and with a cheek-piece, a scope and bipod, it can become a long range rifle.

 

[Mike2]

+1 on the DPMS but be prepared for a long wait if you order it from DPMS, mine won't be here until Sept of 09............been buying up ammo and mags like crazy til it gets here.

 

[ds92]

+1 for the M1A!!! that's my dream gun. Once i get enough spare cash (which, at this rate, might be quite a while) ill be bringing one of those babies home!

 

[H2O MAN]

7.62 nato m14

M14 or M1A

I prefer custom SEI builds on Chinese M14 receivers

 

[crash32]

I am definitely not interested in a .223 vs .308 discussion. I actually have most calibers covered and the .308 is a great caliber that I don't have yet. Enough said about that!!!!!

So far I've got it narrowed down to the PTR-91 and the DSA FAL! I simply wasn't able to find out too much information on the other rifles. I really did like the DMPS, but I do not plan on getting a scope mounted on this rifle since I have other rifles that are target rifles or long distance rifles.

 

[lipadj46]

Like I said above I prefer and own the M14 but I can see how some people may not like them as much. My second choice after an M14 would be an AR10 because out of all the .308 military rifles it is probably the easiest to scope, has the most choices for accessories and the parts are relatively common and cheap. But honestly between the M14, AR10, FAL and PTR-91 it is impossible to pick a loser as they are all great proven platforms.

 

[Loggerlee]

M1a,now I ramble on because some punk thought my message was too short and does not seem to appreciate economy of words,I guess I am supposed to go on and on about the accuracy and the reliability of the weapon now,reasonable price,good accuracy,can be made to look evil.

 

[USSR]

DSA Stg58 with low mounted Sightron SI 3-9x40 Mildot scope.

Don

 

[Jaws]

I'd go with the FAL. Tough, sinister and legendary.


Too bad FN decided to postpone the release of the .308 SCAR Heavy.:banghead:

 

[bozzman3]

PTR= Magazines @$3 a piece,will digest any kind of ammo,looks supper
cool Its also different not everybody has one. Very high quality,priced right,great support from the company,has a little kick to it


PTR= Heavy,operator controls are not laid out to well,trashes your brass.

Be warned that the PTR throws brass further then any rifle I have seen

 

[lipadj46]

PTR= Heavy,operator controls are not laid out to well, trashes your brass.

That is the one thing I don't like about that design. It is fine for the military or for non-reloadable Berdan primed ammo, but if you want to reload then I hear you are out of luck with the PTR-91 as it gouges up brass.

 

[bozzman3]

A port buffer which is a cheap mod helps reduce the damage to the brass. But wow the brass coming out of my gun could be used as a secondary wepon

 

[shotgunjoel]

Fn fal!!

 

[helz_mcfugly]

the DSA FAL would be the better of the two if youre looking for accuracy. you can free float the barrel, many upgrades for it and it will hold a optic very well. The PTR-91 is a little better on the pocket book, and a damn fine rifle if you're not going to put a optic on it. I had the CETME which is just a clone and there is not a scope mount out there that will hold zero on it, mine never had any brass problems, they all came out just fine and reloadable. If I had to pick it would be the DSA FAL just because you can get awesome accurace out of it and theres so much more you can do to it. hope that helps. I think Im going for the Brugger & Thomet (B+T) APR 308

 

[Golden Hound]

I have a port buffer and rubber pad - it keeps the brass from flying out of my HK91. The brass comes out with thin black stripes on it but is physically undamaged and not dented at all.

The G3 platform IS quite expensive to mod. There are many accessories out there for it that you can trick it out with, but they're not cheap.

 

[H2O MAN]

Too bad FN decided to postpone the release of the .308 SCAR Heavy.

Jaw's,
From what I can gather FN was forced to delay the H because it's currently a jam-a-matic POS.
On the plus side... the L is a flawless, reliable work of art... I want one


Maybe the 7.62mm x 51 NATO rifle round is best served semi-automatically...
if that's the case... I'll stick with the accurate, ruggedly reliable modernized M14

 

[moonax]

i would go with the DSA FAL for all the reasons stated One fine rifle

 

[Jaws]

Jaw's,
From what I can gather FN was forced to delay the H because it's currently a jam-a-matic POS.
On the plus side... the L is a flawless, reliable work of art... I want one


Maybe the 7.62mm x 51 NATO rifle round is best served semi-automatically...
if that's the case... I'll stick with the accurate, ruggedly reliable modernized M14

I've never seen anything about jamming problems with the SCAR-H. Where did you read that? Can you share with us pls?

While the M14 is great wepon, it is an old design and is only so much you can do with an old design.

Let's face it. Materials, thechnologies and knowledge have improved a lot since the M14 was introduce.
A new weapon design, built from the ground up, with all the lessons learned in the last 50 years, will always have the advantage over an improved version of an old gun.

After a certain period you get better results and in the end save more money with the new weapon.
Just think of the advantages that come from the "modularity" of a new design.

 

[lipadj46]

While the M14 is great wepon, it is an old design and is only so much you can do with an old design

The Sage and Troy stock systems have completely rejuvenated the M14 as a platform IMO along with SEI and the like. It is a shame that so many were chopped up in the 90's.

The SCAR-H is an interesting rifle so let's see how it performs in the real world.

 

[Jaws]

I think what rejuvenated the M14 was the badly need for a semiautomatic sniper rifle in Iraq and Afganistan. The M-14 was the only good thing readily available in numbers at the time.
It was a great decision.