Recommendations for a kit rifle.

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  1. Oldschool shooter

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    Built a T/C Hawken rifle from a kit when I was 20, that was 41 years ago. Like an idiot I know raded it off for something else. Looking to build another rifle. Nothing against Traditions, but looking for something a bit nicer, in percussion, maybe a long rifle style. Looking to spend around $500. Any suggestions? Probably 50 cal, no larger. May use it for deer hunting, but mostly for enjoyable range time.
     
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  2. Jackrabbit1957

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    You might want to open the wallet a little further, 500.00 is not gonna get a decent parts set. Try Longrifle supply, Track of the Wolf, Muzzleloader supply, Dixie Gun Works.
     
  3. hawg

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    500.00 will get you a Lyman Great Plains but that's about it. At least it has a 1:60 round ball twist
     
  4. troy fairweather

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    Look at a kibler your budget will go up.
     
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    Kiblers are very nice. But they're a grand. Lymans are in your budget, and they work fine. It's really just up to you.
     
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    Does Pedersoli still sell kits? If so that may be an option, last time i looked, although some time ago, the had a number of possibilities
     
  7. Oldschool shooter

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    Maybe I will have to increase my budget. I'm familiar with the Lyman as well as the Traditions, looking for something just a bit nicer. I will look into some of your suggestions, and any others that come this way. When I bought the T/C Hawken kit, the stock was walnut, and 40 years ago cost just under $100. I guess those days are long gone.
     
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    And long gone are the fabulous sales Cabelas used to have before they were bought out. I have sticker shock. For example, bought a .45 pedersoli scout flint kit from dixie in Mar 2019 for $525 on sale. Kit cost $695 now. Have to add your shipping too. I'd like to get a .32 scout kit. Wondering if I should buy before things get worse?
     
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  9. hawg

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    They do but their long rifle kits have two piece stocks like the Traditions guns.
     
  10. JeffG

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    Traditional muzzleloaders kits or not are pricey. If you don't want Lyman-level kits, the jump to better guns, more unique guns is substantial. I am going to say it's worth it. Better wood, better locks, more period accurate. Here is the company I went with, Sitting Fox, and some pics for you. My only proviso, make sure the lock mortise is inletted. That's a very tricky procedure.

    http://sittingfoxmuzzleloaders.com/kits/

    F7026811-FDD0-46B8-A7AE-D3BE5A0FFC13_zpsiywqgjhf.jpg flint2.jpg 27a.jpg
     
  11. Oldschool shooter

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    I will check them out. I've come to the conclusion that I will have to double my budget if I want something nice.
     
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  12. Oldschool shooter

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    VERY nice rifles!
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Whatever you choose, make sure to post pictures of your work.
     
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    Check out Track Of The Wolf. Lots of Kits & parts & pieces if you want to put your own kit together. I bought a lot of stuff from them over the years & they're great.
    https://www.trackofthewolf.com/list/category.aspx/588
     
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  17. Oldschool shooter

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    Kind of wanting a percussion rifle. The only other Blackpowder gun I own is a flintlock. I bought it at an estate sale, and even though I knew nothing about it, I knew it was worth more than they were asking, and I told them so. They sold it to me for their asking price anyway. It is a left handed rifle, and I'm right handed, but bought it anyway. Nice stock and a barrel made by someone by the name of Getz. From what I understand, he made some fine quality barrels. If anyone can tell me more about this one it would be appreciated.
     

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    http://www.longrifles-pr.com/stockscomponents.shtml
    I'd still locking for a lot this place has nice stuff and wood, maybe more work then you want but there nice for the money. Kits are on the right side of the page.
     
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    I looked on their sight, they have some beautiful rifles.
     
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  21. Jackrabbit1957

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    The rifle in the photos is somewhat similar to work done by John Armstrong in the late 1700s. It appears well made and kept. Although the lock is on the wrong side.
     
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    As near as I can figure, it was a custom build on the late 1970s or early 1980s.
     
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    Not sure where you are in Michigan but take a drive to the Log Cabin Shoppe in Lodi, Ohio. Not only all the parts you can think of, but good solid advice from some of the best builders and competitors in the Nation. I was happy to listen to Wes Kindig and now his sons Dan and Rick who have taken over the shop. Oz is a good fellow also. I have not been there in a while. I need to go.


    Kevin
     
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  24. Oldschool shooter

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    I was there once, many years ago. It would be a drive, but may be well worth it. Also saw a nice kit that can be had in percussion. About double my original budget. Just a matter of deciding on grade of wood. Pecotonica River kit.
     

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  25. Jackrabbit1957

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    Pecatoninca River is a good choice, that fellow is a nice man and easy to deal with. I am awaiting my " bucket list" gun from the Rifle Shoppe, anyone here build or fool with their Ferguson rifle? Having a time of finding out what size ball to shoot through it.
     
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