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Recommnded Gun Lubricants?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by G11354, Nov 20, 2012.

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  1. Warp

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    http://www.ar15.com/content/swat/keepitrunning.pdf

    By Pat Rogers

    "One of the very prominent AR myths is that the gun runs better dry. It is a myth.

    The AR series runs significantly better wet than dry, but there are those who approach this with such great trepidation that they steadfastly refuse to use only a tiny bit of lube on their carbines, causing them to cease functioning after a very short while.

    Hundreds of e-net posts speak of using little lube on the carbines, believing that too much lube is the cause of all problems.

    A friend, a retired Marine MSgt and a prolific Class 3 collector, looks at lube like it was two-day old cat urine, and is absolutely phobic about putting anything more than a drop or two on any gun.

    Our experience is that, after poor magazines and operator-induced malfunctions, dry guns are a major cause of stoppages."
     
  3. Al Thompson

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    Ditto wet, not dry. I've seen several Youtube videos where AR platforms were malfunctioning in a fight. If you look closely, the BCGs are dry.

    Another point - that TM is from 1985. There was not much desert training prior to that as the NTC had just opened up in (IIRC) 1984. ;)
     
  4. wojownik

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    Have been using CLP for years.

    In my AKs, I've taken to using Lukoil (no kidding) picked up a bottle of 5w40. Seemed fitting :D You can find it here and there in the U.S., usually in English. I found a bottle in Cyrillic and couldn't resist.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I am really curious what people mean specifically when they are saying that one type of lube is much better than others they've used. Better in what sense?
     
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    Sometimes it is just what works well for the individual, the guns they use, and the way they use them. I bet if I were in Arizona instead of Tennessee I might change my favorite gun oils and cleaners and protectants for storage.

    Most gun kits I bought as a kid contained a nitro solvent for cleaning and a clear oil for lubricant and a gun grease in a tube that looked like cosmoline.

    I have been preferring Break Free CLP (cleaner lubricant protectant) since it was recommended by a family friend who was in 82nd Airborne starting back in the 1980s. If there is room in the bag for one bottle, Break Free goes in. My experience is it fills the lubricant role better than cleaner or long term protectant. You can find better products for the three roles of liquids in gun maintenance, and specialty items within the three roles.

    I tend to buy large bottles Hoppes#9 and Break Free CLP, refilling smaller bottles for the home cleaning kit and range bags.

    I have also had 10W nondetergent motor oil recommended to me as a lubricant; as I recall it seemed to be as effective the more expensive product-specific clear gun oils. For that I have use Outers and Remington brand gun oils, probably the only reason is the convenient bottle size.

    I have not used ATF and have no reason or rumor to doubt it works too. It appears to be a fine alternative.

    On "running wet or dry", I clean AK or AR wiping after cleaning with solvent, using a lightly oiled cloth to leave a bare sheen of oil on parts, then use Q-tip or pipe cleaner to oil all metal-to-metal contact surfaces (which are fewer on the AK). I tend to leave surfaces directly exposed to hot gas dry not wet.

    Before I duck for cover, WD40 and 3-in-1 can be used on disassembled parts as cheap cleaners if they are wiped off before re-assembly; over time (storage) WD40 solvent evaporates leaving behind a wax (that's how water displacement works), and 3-in-1 appears to both evaporate somewhat and oxidize into a varnish.
     
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    For those who use Mobil 1 synthetic, what weight do you use and does it matter?
     
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    I have used Mobil 1 full synthetic 0W-20.
    But I also live where it gets cold. It is
    currently -37F, at the airport. I try not
    to shoot when it gets below zero.:D
    Gunzilla is my current favorite. It is non
    toxic and doesn't have a strong odor.
     
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    I agree ARs run better wet than than dry but that is the exception rather than the rule and this thread wasn't started as an AR thread so I would think it was understood what I was saying. As far as the "wet" sand vs dry sand, its better to have LESS sand in your weapon and I would also stand by what I said for MOST cases. The world doesn't begin and end with the AR in every discussion.
     
  11. Warp

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    Depends on the gun. The AR is a type of gun. It is popular. And it is better with more lube than less.
     
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    Agree mostly but HOW it is used is more important (for lubrication)than what it is. An AR (or Ak,et.al.)type is more likely to be fired rapidly and for longer periods than other type of arms causing more heat build up and needing more lube or a higher viscosity for sufficient protection.
     
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    So I was just sitting here willing the nozzle of that pictured squeeze bottle to grow a few inches. That didn't work. What did work was slapping my forehead and sticking one of those plastic tubes that comes with every can of spray oil etc. into the hole. It fits/works perfectly. yay
     
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    I've tried many things.

    Right now working with Ballistol but over the years I finda 50/50 mix of Penzoil 10w30 and STP engine treatment or MMO work as good as anything.
     
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    I use Remoil or CLP in my AR's. my newest AR (Hk) recommends CLP by name in its owners manual. So I guess I will believe them....
     
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    I'm liking frog lube pretty well
     
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    Mobil 1 and EP2 grease.
     
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    Anybody try air compressor oil, the stuff you put in air nailers?
     
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    I have used a bunch of different ones.
    Eezox is my favorite, but I only use it on guns which will sit for a while, because it is the best there is when it comes to corrosion protection.
    http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html
    http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html
    For general CLP duties on handguns that get shot frequently, I use Ed's Red.
    Equal parts ATF, diesel fuel, acetone and mineral spirits.
     
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