Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by SlimReaper67, Sep 7, 2022.
I'll bet pressure is a little low and those hammered guns put a wallop on primers for sure-fire ignition.
I own Beretta 81's too but have not reloaded for it. I bought a bunch of .32 when it was cheap.
Catered primers always means you have flow into the firing pin hole in the receiver. Some primers are softer and show signs much earlier which is good for load development. Knowing that your seating depth is already deeper than the book lists means pressure is already higher. I like tightgroup unlike many, but based on saftey you need to start at minimum and look for signs.
I see. (Re: cratering)
Yes, Titegroup gets weird (dangerous) in small spaces like that based on my messing around with .25 acp and .38 Colt short. It seems to create more pressure exponentially or similar. Not a powder for loading to max in little cases IMO.
I don't know anything about Red Dot, sorry.
Someone with more experience than I should interpret those for ya.
There is nothing wrong with using the Red Dot powder , it takes up any extra room and even can be compress a little ...it does Red Dot no harm and many times in handguns I find it to give the best accuracy . HP-38 and 700X are also good powders for the 32 auto .
But I like Red Dot because it is hard to double charge it !
When I can't get Bullseye ...Red Dot , HP-38 and 700X are my go to's .
Savage bolt actions are notorious for primer flow due to poor clearances. Many have the bolt bushed to tighten them up and the flow is eliminated.
What is happening is always the same, why it happens can be a few reasons, some worse than others.
For .32 ACP, I like AA #2, or W-231, or WST, or N-310. They all give good fill, meter well, and shoot well.
I’m seeing the same thing. It also looks from the smearing of the primer brass like extraction may be starting while pressure is still a little high. It might not be a bad idea to have the recoil springs checked for proper length/tension. I’m not saying anything absolutely, just suggesting it couldn’t hurt. Fwiw I think the load is fine. I don’t see any signs of excessive pressure. Then again, reading primers for pressure signs is slightly less accurate than reading tea leaves for stock quotes.
Those are NORMAL primers fired in a Beretta!
Both my M81 .32acp, and M85 .380acp do that! Also, a Taurus PT99 (Beretta M92 clone) also did that.
Either powder will perform well in .32acp. The TiteGroup will meter more consistent but won’t necessarily shoot better.
I shoot a home cast version of that same bullet.
Completely wore out a Beretta TomCat back in the ‘90’s shooting the Lyman 78gr RN over 1.8gr of Bullseye.
Just enough to cycle the action and shoot accurately.
After all, it IS just a .32!...
But it’s one of my favorite rounds!
I'll second that. RedDot is about the right burn rate, but is far too coarse to allow accurate metering in the tiny load range that 32 Auto requires.
For bullets, try the coated polymer coated 78gr RN from T&B... https://tbbullets.com/32acp-78gr-rn-polymer-coated/
Did they do that even with factory ammo?
So that's basically the exact bullet profile I'm using now at .312", the blunt nose catches where the barrel starts and prevents it from being chambered. I ordered a .309 Lee bullet sizing die, should be here tomorrow. I'll try that (as is recommended in the Lyman manual) and post back with results.
Only seems to do it with my reloads. I may have been priming too hard, some primers had distortion right after priming (using a hand primer). Priming on press seems to be cleaner, I'll try that and let you guys know.
I played around with a few powders including Promo (bulk version of Red Dot) and settled on TiteGroup. At the small charges involved, my powder measure drops TiteGroup with much lower percent variations than Promo. In a 32 ACP sized case, I am happy with the high density of TiteGroup.
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