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Red Jacket ARs

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by GunnyUSMC, Jan 13, 2012.

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  1. GunnyUSMC

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    I know that most of you know the name Red Jacket Firearms and know that they do the TV show Sons of Guns. I'm no big fan of the TV show, too much Hollywood BS for me, But I do know that they make some great weapons.
    I have known Will for close to 20 years and will tell you that he is not a people person, but he is honest.
    Will is a gun builder and that is what he loves to do. He has never been the guy that stands behind the counter to sell guns.
    Know I have another friend (Tommy) that has been selling guns for as long as I have known him, which is about 25 years are so. Hell, I even worked for him for three years before I became a LEO.
    Tommy is the owner of B&J Guns in Denham Springs LA. I have bought several guns from his store over the years. B&J Guns is now the distributor for Red Jacket Firearms. I stopped by there today and looked at the Red Jacket ARs he had in stock. These are some sweet ARs and I know what will be on my 2012 Christmas list.
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  2. kfgk14

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    You could do a lot better

    For less money, there are better firearms. I could spec out a fully mil-spec, higher-quality build for the same price, with a free float rail, easily. Complete lower for under $300, complete upper for under $800, floated and mil-spec.

    The show is alright, I'd rather watch "Breaking Bad" or "Hell on Wheels" but it's alright I guess. Explosions are cool. for a serious, hard use AR-15 though, a BCM, Colt, or Daniel Defense would serve you better.
     
  3. Inebriated

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    They do nothing (TO MY KNOWLEDGE) that I couldn't do for less.
     
  4. MikeRussell

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    To hell with could, I did. Under a grand, 6.8 16in middy that I'd put up against theirs any day.
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  5. drsfmd

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    Can it be purchased without the Red Jacket logo being on every single part? That's just tacky IMO.
     
  6. MikeRussell

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    Nope, thats where the inflated cost comes from LOL
     
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    Theirs is just as bad, but certainly not unique in that respect; it seems that all of a sudden, every single AR assembler felt the need to put their logo on every part that leaves their building. I'm not a big fan of it either.
     
  8. Nullcone

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    This thread belongs in the cheesy advertisement and self-promotion sub-forum.

    Oh wait, we don't have one?

    Probably for a reason...
     
  9. El Tejon

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    Please share with us then.

    Please share with the class. Tell me how to build a Katana on the cheap and I am all ears!

    I have a couple of Katanas which were purchased after I got to handle the prototype at Shootrite. I am very happy with the carbines. They are going to Texas next month.:)
     
  10. gun addict

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    my classy M4 and it's as close to my issued M4 as i can built

    Colt 6721, full auto bolt carrier, KAC RAS M4 rail, panels, foregrip, Surefight weaponlight on ARMS mount, Trijicon ACOG 4x, badger ordnance tac latch

    the whole thing costed me less than $900 to built overall, id take it anyday vs some unknown Red Jacket AR with their logo all over
     

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    If someone thinks it's cool to own a firearm from a reality soap opera, more power to them. To me, it's just plain stupidity. RJF = overpriced. Their show is garbage too.
     
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    I realize prices have come down and all, but I'd sure love to see the cost breakdown on how you get a Colt together with an ACOG, Surfire, and KAC rail for "less than $900", just for entertainment purposes.
     
  13. gun addict

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    no prob NY, look at my old thread
    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=62314

    about purchasing a LNIB SIG 556 with ACOG, and Harris bipod for $800, plus an HK shotgun for $400

    I sold the SIG 556 rifle only for $1000 and kept the ACOG/Harris bipod
    Took the HK shotgun+$300 and traded for the Colt 6721

    Bought a set of KAC rail, panel, grip and the surefight from a used parts dealer for $150
    Bought a Colt Full circle bolt carrier to replace the half moon carrier for $60
    Bought the badger ordnance tac latch for $20

    so all in all, i got my SHTF AR set up for FAR less than what a red jacket would ask for on their unknown AR15 variant
     
  14. GunnyUSMC

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    Your post is out right rude and pertty cheesy in itself.
    I do not work for Red Jacket or for BJ Guns, but the owners of the two are friends of mine.

    So you can build and sell your ARs with a Lifetime Guarantee ?
    I did not start this thread so that others could brag about how good and cheap they could build ARs.
    I started this thread to let others know where they coud get A Red Jacket AR if they wanted one.
    No, Red Jacket will not make a gun with out there logo on it, but then agan will most other gun co. do that.
     
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    I think that link goes to the wrong thread...

    But regardless, comparing a factory new price to something you were able to to piece together used with a couple once-in-a-lifetime deals/trades is not really apples to apples.

    But I bought my 6920 for $1075, and 6921 for $1050, both NIB... and that is just a couple examples of rifles that are going to be more highly regarded than a Red Jacket AR for less than their listed price. There are many more examples.

    Once something is that popularized on TV, you are going to be paying for the name.
     
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    I am not bashing or anything else, but I do need to ask this question:

    What makes their AR better than others?

    The reason for this question is that almost every part that I can visually see is made by other companies and I can buy them just as easy.

    This is not a put down or sarcasm, but a question I ask anyone who tries to sell me a rifle.
     
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    From all of the banter on the interwebs, combined with some really amazing legal paperwork I've seen leads me to believe red jacket items might be collectible soon.

    As you appear to have a little better insight, perhaps you can share what you know of red jackets' future ?
     
  18. gun addict

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    seriously with the red jacket, what am i paying for with $1150? It's magpuled out so obviously the furnitures arnt top notch and most people would have to switch it out with a set of quality rails. Are the barrels chrome lined? M4 feed ramp? What grade of steel is used on the barrel? How bout the bolt/bolt carriers? Whos the maker of the lower because Red Jacket surely didnt make it themselves.

    What does lifetime guarantee even mean? If i break an extractor do i then sent in the rifle to Red Jacket for replacement or should i do it myself by spending $5? Would Red Jacket replace the barrel if i run over 100,000 rounds through it and completely trash it or decides to abuse the hell out of the rifle?

    all in all im paying the price of a Colt or Daniel Defense M4 for an AR with unknown qualities, with a name on it that isnt highly regarded by the gun community..........think i'll pass
     
  19. GunnyUSMC

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    Well I can't answer all of your questions, but I know where there is someone that can.
    Give them a call, send an email or write a letter.
    Red Jacket Firearms.
    9653 Mammoth Ave
    Baton Rouge, LA 70814
    Toll Free: (800) 951-1319

    Fax: (225) 448-3169
    RJF@redjacketfirearms.com
     
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    It would be my guess a hand fitted by a gun smith firearm is going to be better than a mass produced one. And then you have to make a little $ on it. Just like buying a Colt over something else, you pay for the Pony. Not in just AR's either.

    Having said that, I would think there are people on this board who could figure out how to get a piston AR to work. I know to Red Jacket TV show is just that....and not going to let us see what really gpes on because if they did, no one would watch it.

    But we also know if you have all the parts a AR lower only takes about 30 mins (with a short break) to put it together with only the safety needing some hand fitting. Maybe.
     
  21. MikeRussell

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    How inexpensive do you want it? You could use a PSA upper (uses a FN barrel) which would cost you under $450 (then swap the handguard for another $150)...or you could assemble one with a Wilson Combat match grade barrel, NiB BCG, and handguard like mine for about $700. Then you can build a lower with a match grade trigger set & good collapsible stock for another $400.

    Taking the most expensive upper example, adding the lower, tossing in a set of Magpul flip up BUIS, you are just under $1200 for a rifle that will shoot better than you can...in either 5.56, 6.8, or 7.62x40 (Wilson's barrels all run the same price).
     
  22. Bartholomew Roberts

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    The AR in the picture above is not the Shootrite Katana; but some other Red Jacket AR, though at the Katana's MSRP of $1,849.00, you certainly have a lot of options in what you can build in an AR for that price.

    The AR in the picture above appears to be Red Jacket's KMP-DI rifle (priced at $1,155). Basically, it meets the same specs as a Colt LE6920; but has Magpul furniture and a Magpul MBUS instead of a detachable carry handle. It also has a $55 muzzle device that basically only works with Red Jacket suppressors.

    The KMP-DI looks like a good quality rifle; but I don't see any major innovation there. It is a comparative product to a Colt, BCM, Daniel Defense, etc. at a slightly higher price point.
     
  23. GunnyUSMC

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    You pretty much hit it on the head.
    But it's not like Red Jacket is having trouble selling guns. They have a 3 month back order.
    I also know that I can build an AR from parts for much less. I have a new Rock River lower in the safe.
    I did ask my friend if he would cut me a deal on one of the ARs he had in stock, he said no.
     
  24. Dr.Rob

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    So it's not the piston gun?

    I can't see the advantage over a Colt at that price point. Are there significant internal differences?
     
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    I am sorry but this thread is one more reason to not be an active member here. If this statement puts the mark on my head then so let it be. I thought this was "The High Road" not the "bash some ones thread and insult thier friends" forum.
     
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