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Reload Carry Ammo?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Tim A Marcia, Mar 14, 2020.

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Do you reload your Carry Ammo?

Poll closed Mar 16, 2020.
  1. No, factory ammo only

    42 vote(s)
    54.5%
  2. Yes, I make better ammo to carry

    35 vote(s)
    45.5%
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  1. GEM

    GEM Moderator Staff Member

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    The jury decides what is within the law. The judge will determine what is relevant. So 'within the law' isn't over till it's over.

    Be it GSR or appearance issues - all this goes into a decision process of what is acting within the law means. The jury decides according to various theoretical models on the best and most coherent stories. How that story is framed is complex.

    A good attorney will introduce the fact - here's a fun factor from jury research. The DA brings up factor X, the defense objects. Members of the juries may think - why this must be a bad thing or why was the defense objecting. Also, it's been found they don't remember the objection only the first presentation. Telling a juror to disregard something - doesn't work. Even if explicitly they don't mention it, implicitly it may color their views. Lots of experimental tests of this.

    Last, you may want a more coherent defense of some factor than just the defense's statement - that brings me back to an expert that will cost you a fortune in most cases. The expert may fail - some noted experts have been disregarded on issues of whether magazines of higher cap should be banned. The emotion overrides the logic.
     
  2. Kleanbore

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    It is stated in the first non-introductory sentence of our sticky on the subject in ST&T.
     
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  3. Kleanbore

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    Sure, but the main issue here has nothing to do with what the jury thinks about the ammunition used.

    Rather, it has to do with whether the jury will not be allowed to even know about the existence of what could be important exculpatory evidence.
     
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  4. Sneakshot92

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    I practice with speer lawman and carry gold dots. Never can tell the difference when shooting either at the range except for the effects on targets.
     
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    I agree.
    While using handloads might not cause problem,
    my thought is why take the risk.
    If it ever comes to that one less thing to worry about is good idea IMO.

    I buy 3 or 4 boxes of SD ammo about every to years, same lot, I shoot 2 boxes, 1 in my main SD gun one in 3 or 4 other guns.
    I rotate rounds in the mag when rechambering.t eliminate setback concerns.


    Most of what I shoot is match ammo (USPSA) so not full power but I load up full power stuff to practice with every now ant then.
    Yes the full power stuff feels a bit different than my match ammo, but not that much different.
    If I can hit the target with match ammo, I should be able to hit it with my SD ammo, if I do my part.

    Matches are not SD by any means but I can say it is different shooting under pressure with your heart rate up than just shooting relaxed target practice.

    One of the nice things is it is still sort of a free country and we can each make our on choice,
    I chose factory AMMO for SD as I see no downside, the cost of 4 boxes of SD ammo every few years is a small fraction of my ammo budget.
     
  6. styles

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    Loads are loads. Carry, shoot. For 100 years all loads were hand loads. What do you think a muzzle loader is? This is the biggest hoodoo in the gun industry. Dead is dead. A load is a load.
     
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  7. Ironicaintit

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    9F61359B-D47D-41A3-92AC-C0256075E951.jpeg This is a factory WCC 7.62x39. It came out of the box this way.
    Now, if such an obvious fault can make it through QC, how easy is it for a less obvious flaw (powder or primer faults) to pass their QC?
    This one is the only example I have on hand, but over the years I’ve encountered primers that had no anvil, upside down primers, zero powder, and even one that had no flash hole... all in factory ammo.
    I carry my own, because I have a vested interest in ensuring that if ever it’s needed, that puppy is going to work as intended
     
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  8. GEM

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    On the other hand, having shot many, many matches - I have seen that if there is ammo problem, it is more likely to be a handload. It is cliche that one says that their handloads never go bad.

    We are just going in circles here.
     
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  9. Walkalong

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    Which is how these threads usually go.
     
  10. GEM

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    So true. Until next time. My plasma rifle beam is better than factory.
     
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