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Reloading for a Budget AR

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by doc540, May 4, 2014.

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  1. doc540

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    thought I'd snag an upper from PSA and mount a Mueller on it for a fun project

    shot it for the second time today

    200yds, stock trigger, off a bag

    69gr Sierra BTHP's, Varget, range brass, Federal primers

    good starting point, but certainly no bolt rifle

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  2. nix4me

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    Seems pretty good to me for an AR.
     
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    That is actually quite good esp. so with the wind. Keep working up with the Varget, I found with my AR's they really like it in the upper range of the load data.
     
  4. theslasher

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    My gun looks identical to yours except the scope. I love that upper. $399 and you get a bolt carrier, charging handle and a $189 Midwest Industries handguard. Mine shoots 1" at 100 yards with 26 gr of varget and a 55 vmax or 55 sp. People at the range think my gun costs alot more than it does. Since it is a 1/7 I suspect heavier bullets would shoot even better.

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  5. Lennyjoe

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    I prefer H335 over Varget for my 55 gr loads.
     
  6. doc540

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    I've heard good things about H335.

    Of course, here locally I've never SEEN any, but I'd sure like to try some. :)
     
  7. doc540

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    NOW we're gettin' somewhere! Windy today, but the budget AR shot a great group at 200yds. Of course, there had to be the obligatory flier. :eek:

    I do believe I have found a load it likes - 77gr Sierra BTHP over 24.7gr of Varget.

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  8. AlliedArmory

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    My budget red dot AR only gets Hornady 55gr FMJ-BT over H335.

    It looks like you have about a 2" group at 200 yrds in wind which is very nice for any AR not costing 2K+
     
  9. doc540

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    Thanks

    Without the dadgum flier it was .71".:eek:

    Better than the 1.5" I shot the first time out.
     
  10. Lennyjoe

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    How full are the cases using Varget? We tried some with 55 gr bullets and LC brass and the case was plum full......
     
  11. theslasher

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    FULL! It will crunch a bit when you seat the bullet. Perfectly normal.
     
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    Thats dang fine shootin', allowed by dang fine loadin'.

    5 shot groups are quite the pain- 3 shot groups have been getting a new breath of air thanks to Taliv- I suggest you do some additional reading and not beat yourself up so bad !

    Well done.
     
  13. doc540

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    Thank you....improved trigger and no wind should tell the tale.

    And next time I'll quit at 4! :)
     
  14. RussellC

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    Doc, dont feel bad. For 200 yards not bad at all. shoot 5, but the closest 3 are a bit more indicative of the gun's capabilities I always felt anyway, sort of eliminates the flyers that just are not the gun's fault.

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    What is the diameter of the red circle?
     
  16. doc540

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    red circle is less than an 1.5"

    I measured the group of four by following someone's instructions to set the calipers at .224, the diameter of the bullet.

    It came about to a little less than 3/4 of an inch, but I'm not gonna split hairs until I get a better trigger and shoot in something besides a lay'em-down wind like the last two or three days. :eek:
     
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  17. theslasher

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    Are you using a Lead Sled or something similar?
     
  18. doc540

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    I wish I did have one of those sled things.

    All I have to work with is this front rest and a small bag which I put under the pistol grip.

    Not real stable, but better than nothing.

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    My RRA Varmit doesn't shoot much better than that. Those are some good groups. Your loads seems heavy. Are you showing a signs of high pressure?
     
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    Thanks

    not sure what to look for other than a bulge in the lower part of the case and primers not looking "normal"?

    I'm inspecting my brass after I shoot and before I tumble.
     
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    my stupid psa rifle outshot my rra predator pursuit. and they both outshot my bolt guns. I don't like the AR platform much, but you can't argue with the results.
     
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    Barrel length?
     
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