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Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by PlasticPistolPacker, Sep 20, 2005.

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  1. PlasticPistolPacker

    PlasticPistolPacker Member

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    How many of you shoot reloads from you revolvers? I have a 637 Airwieght. Would it be safe to shoot reloads from it. My buddy had a 3" Ruger SP101, and he shot less than a box of .38 reloads through it before it peeled the finish of the inside of the cylinder (if that makes sense).
     
  2. HSMITH

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    I shoot several thousand reloads per round of factory ammo in my revolvers. I have never had an issue of any kind using reloads.

    Reloads done right equal and often exceed the quality of factory ammunition.
     
  3. LAH

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    PlasticPistolPacker, welcome to the board. Never had a problem with reloads in a revolver.
     
  4. jlh26oo

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    From what I understand, if the reloads are done right, they are especially safe in a revolver. But read my thread on my cylinder locking on my gp100. That was with a reload.

    Interesting you mention damaging the finish on the inside of the cylinders. I was curious if all revolvers did this, because mine have little rings almost to the ends of the cylinders where the finish is worn. I assumed this was normal. (I have shot both factory and reloaded ammo in mine, so I cannot speak to the correlation).

    I'm sure it is safe to use reloads, but I personally am done. WWB value packs are cheap enough, and i have never had a problem with them, whether reloads had anything to do with it or not.
     
  5. Jet22

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    I shoot "handloads" in everything I own. I will not shoot "reloads" from an unknown source in anything I own. You have to trust the person doing the loading with your life. I have see two Ruger Super Blackhawks with the cylinders blown to bits. I talked to some guys one time that bragged they used "double loads" in their shotgun and one time even used a "tripple load" but when they opened the action after fireing it "the case was gone". Too many idiots out there. If you have a friend that is an avid reloader and not a "thrill seeker" his loads may be safe. Use your own judgment. Handloads should do no more or less damage to your guns finish than factory loads (probibly less).
     
  6. jlh26oo

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    I was under the impression that taking brass that has been fired once or more, and loading it, again, was a reload, regardless of who reloads it.

    Handloads, I though were anything loaded "by hand", or anything not factory.

    I guess if it's not a "reload", and just a "handload", that means only using new brass. That sounds most safe to me.

    BTW do you use reloads/handloads in your "plastic pistol", plastic pistol guy? Surely if they are ok in that they are ok in a revolver.
     
  7. Jet22

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    I guess I just don't like the term "reload"...but you are right...anything in a used case could be considered "reloads"...especially if done by a factory. :scrutiny: I like to think my "handloads" are a bit above that as they are being custom loaded to my specifications for my guns. I believe most other serious handloaders would feel the same. To get the best performance (in a rifle) the case has to be first fireformed in the rifle being loaded for anyway...so all custom loads would be in a used case! :)
     
  8. PlasticPistolPacker

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    That's what else I was confused about. Handloads VS Reloads. I don't know which they are, but they're on the shelf at my local dealer. He says he sells a lot of them and has never had any problems. I only shoot/carry factory loads in my G30, because we know how often GLOCKS blow up for NO reason :rolleyes: , but when they do KB (which is rarely considering the amount of people who own them) it usually has to do with reloaded or handloaded ammunition (Yes I LOOOOVE the kool-aid). I carry .38 125gr +p gold dots in my 637, but would like to shoot some handloads for practice. Didn't know if the $1/box savings was worth the risk. Thanks for the help guys
     
  9. LHB1

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    PPP,
    I have four S&W M629 .44 Mag revolvers, two 1911's in .45 ACP including a new Wilson Classic, and three high power rifles. I shoot them regularly but haven't fired any factory rifle or pistol ammo in 30+ years. Did buy 2 flats of new WIN AA shotgun shells recently for my shotgun. These are being reloaded also as they are fired. The ONLY factory ammo I use regularly is .22 LR.

    There is nothing inherently wrong with handloads/reloads. They are as good as the person makes them. Judging from accuracy, performance, grouping, and safety, my reloads are as safe/good as factory loads and perhaps better. Loading ammo hotter than factory loads is not a safe approach to reloading except for a few factory loads which are intentionally underloaded due to the number of old soft-steel rifles/pistols still being used.

    Good shooting and be safe.
    LB
     
  10. PlasticPistolPacker

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    That post right there seals the deal for me. 30+ years :what: . If something goes wrong I'm blaming it all on you!!! Haha, I'll try some this weekend and let you know how it went.
     
  11. Standing Wolf

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    I've been shooting home-rolled ammunition three decades without encountering a single problem—other than disappointing my ex-wife, of course.
     
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    Quote: "There is nothing inherently wrong with handloads/reloads. They are as good as the person makes them."

    PPP,
    Nope, can't blame me if something goes wrong because I won't be the one making your reloads. I load ONLY for myself and my son and will NOT shoot anyone else's handloads in my guns under any conditions!! MAY shoot their handloads in their guns but ONLY if I know and trust them with my last set of hands and eyes. Good luck with your handloading. Know and do NOT exceed the appropriate limitations and safety precautions. NEVER USE ANYONE ELSE'S LOADING DATA UNLESS IT IS WITHIN THE SAFE RANGE AS LISTED IN AT LEAST ONE MAJOR RELOADING MANUAL!!!

    I have been safely reloading for 40+ years. During the first few years I would buy one box of factory ammo for each new rifle or pistol but about 30 years ago I discontinued that practice. My new (very expensive for me) Wilson Classic pistol has not been fired with anything but my handloads since I got it. Even Wilson's original test firing was done with handloads very similar to mine and using the same bullet that I load.

    Good Handloading/Shooting and Be Safe.
    LB
     
  13. Guy B. Meredith

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    That discoloration in the end of the chambers is probably just 'dirt' from the shorter .38 spl rounds. No problem as it is just the same as the discoloration on the front of the cylinder-just keep it clean.

    Regarding handloads/reloads vs commercial ammo. I quite honestly don't know where to buy commercial ammo. Of any given type that is. I'd have to search around or just take pot luck. The last commercial ammo I bought for .38 spl or .357 mag other than 40 rnds Hydra-Shok was about 30,000 rounds of reloads ago.

    Also, when I reload I know what I am getting with zero travel or telephone time and it is always available.
     
  14. PlasticPistolPacker

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    Oh, it's certainly not discoloration. It is definately Metal flake something. It looks like 'paint' from the inside of the cylinder. Almost like metal shavings. Discoloration, he could deal with...peeling he could not. Sold it for a G19 ;)
     
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    The SP-101 is a stainless steel revolver so it has no finish on it. Were the reloads loaded with cast bullets and what you saw was possibly lead?
     
  16. jlh26oo

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    No, I can definitely relate to what he is saying. It may not have a finish, but there are definitely rings of a lighter color there when the dirt is cleaned off on my GP100. Don't know if it's the same, but that's what I'm seeing in mine.
     
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    I have fired thousands of my own reloads through my SP-101 and have never had any problem, especially with "finish" coming off the inside of the cylinder.
     
  18. PlasticPistolPacker

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    I stand corrected. It was a blued GP 100. Sorry, still new to this revolver world. So I assume it was the bluing that was removed? Either way, I'm going to try some handloads this weekend.
     
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    If it was a blued revolver, I've seen the flame cutting take the bluing off (at least that's what it looks like), but you just end up with a dull grey. No real big deal. Actually, my 629 .44 Magnum, nice bright stainless, has nice, solid burn rings on the end of the cylinder now, along with a light ring from shooting .44 Specials. Sometime I'll get a chamber brush and get at those. Of course Magnums still fit and fire fine.

    Oh yeah, I've fired tons of my reloads with only a few problems, all traced back to loading on a cheap progressive. (It was 3 rounds total; 2 .223s and a 9mm.) I went to Camp Perry and had nothing but reloaded ammo for my AR-15, and I have never fired a factory round in my 629. Actually, I can't remember the last time I fired factory rounds out of anything but my shotgun.
     
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    If I didn't cast and roll my own, I couldn't afford to shoot!!
     
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    That's close to all I shoot through mine. No problem other than accumulated filth. I only shoot my own handloads.
     
  22. PlasticPistolPacker

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    So far I've gained that it is perfectly fine to shoot handloads. Now to what extent would you trust ones you bought at the gun shop? Is it worth the $1 savings/box 50? For what its worth, this ammunition has been circulated through this specific gun shop since I've been going there...so could one assume that no one has had any severe problems causing the loads to be pulled from the shelves?

    Edit: Where would be a good place to buy bulk reloads online? Anywhere you trust specificly? IIRC there is a small mom and pop store out of Georgia(?) that a lot of people order from? Mostly rifle ammuntition but they do have handgun too.
     
  23. LAH

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    One such place is www.nationalbullet.com

    National Bullet Company
    1585 East 361 St. Eastlake OH 44095
    Phone 440-951-1854 Fax 440-951-7761

    Note they will load your brass if you have it.
     
  24. wanderinwalker

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    PPP,
    For what you're looking for, I'd almost suggest looking at CCI Blazer and WWB, especially if what you're saving is $1 per 50. There are places online to order from; Georgia Arms sells reloads, IIRC. Natchez Shooters Supply is also a good source for various ammuntion and other shooting accessories. Save your brass and shoot long enough, and you will get your own press in time. You can't avoid it! :eek:

    BTW, where in NH are you?
     
  25. Jet22

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    I can't remember the last time I bought a box of factory loads for anything from a dealer. I might buy a box of 32 Remington, 22 Jet, 256 Win Mag, or other rare discontinued stuff at a gun show, but usually don't shoot it. Any other factory stuff odds and ends that I might get with a gun or in a trade is only used for chronograph comparisons. :cool:
     
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