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Remington 22 LR 36 gr Golden Bullet Plated HP

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  1. random_gun

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    I inspected the rounds before put them into the magazine. And the bullets split before they leave the magazine....The damaged rounds can't be loaded into the chamber and bolt won't close.... Seriously I tried like 70 rounds probably had 20 like this...3 bad rounds per magazine.....
    Remington is not ashamed for making products of this quality? CCI, Federer, even Remington Thunderbolt worked fine in the mark iii 22/45... These golden bullets are totally BS....
     
  2. wally

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    The Golden Bullet bulk packs have been bad for a long time, I quit buying them years ago.

    Remington Thunderbolt used to be OK but since they switched from the "waxy" lube to some kind of shiny polymer its given me terrible leading problems in all my pistols so I've quit buying it too.
     
  3. Hamish

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    Even though 22LR ammo is scarce, I'd rather go without than shoot Remington 22LR ammo. It is inaccurate, unreliable, poorly made, and dirty to shoot. I shoot CCI almost exclusively now in all of my various .22s.
     
  4. Charger442

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    just had a discussion with my Dad about this a couple of weeks ago. He was saying how great the Golden Bullets were shooting for him (accuracy and dependability) and i told him I thought they were complete trash, which they are.

    Getting down to the root of it, he said his were an older lot of ammo, probably some he has had for 15+ years. The last Golden Bullet pack i bought was probably a year and a half ago. Just goes to show how terrible Remington's rimfire QC has become over the last decade.

    i told him to shoot up the pack he had from years ago and don't try to buy anymore new ones because he would be disappointed and think he wasted his money.
     
  5. bannockburn

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    I gave up trying to shoot Remington Golden Bullet ammo many years ago. Even in this .22LR shortage I wouldn't buy it if it was the only ammo in the store.
     
  6. dogtown tom

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    That's not Remingtons fault, those soft lead bullets behaved exactly like they are supposed to...........it's your gun that is at fault.

    If you inspected the rounds prior to loading, one would assume everything was fine.

    Damage to the bullet nose was caused by YOUR GUN.......not Remington.
    Try a different magazine.
     
  7. Taurus 617 CCW

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    I am finding similar problems with the newest batches of Winchester .22 ammo. They wouldn't even load into a revolver cylinder.
     
  8. dogtown tom

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    IT'S A MISSFEED PROBLEM PEOPLE!!!!!!

    Has nothing to do with the ammunition.
     
  9. rcmodel

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    +1

    Nothing to do with the ammo.

    Your gun is damaging them during feeding when they run into the feed ramp or front edge of the magazine.

    rc
     
  10. RussellC

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    I had this happening with some CCI ammo in my RUGER 10/22 and RUGER hi cap clips.(BX-25) The bullets looked just like those in the picture. Only the CCI mini mags from a 100 rnd box did this. Federals and two other brands functioned flawlessly. What ever is wrong with my gun, it only happens with 1 out of 3 ammos. Apparently, it WAS something with the gun/clip as taking the clip apart, inspecting and reassembly left it and the ammo functioning "normally" go figure...

    Russellc
     
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  11. rondog

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    Unless the ammo is too weak to cycle the action properly......

    Could also be a dirty gun, weak/worn out spring(s), many things.

    But I have the greatest number of problems and misfires with Remington .22lr ammo. People don't call 'em Thunderduds for nothing.
     
  12. skoro

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    I used to think that Remington ammo would be the perfect thing for my Remington 552 rifle. Using their "golden bullets" I experienced every kind of ammo failure imaginable. I thought it was the rifle, so took it to a gunsmith. He gave it back and said it's working perfectly. Since then I use Federal, CCI, Winchester and Aguila ammo and never have those problems.

    Draw your own conclusion; I've drawn mine. ;)
     
  13. aarondhgraham

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    I had that exact same problem last week,,,

    I had that exact same problem last week,,,
    Remington Golden Bullets would not feed properly,,,
    They hung and damaged the bullet exactly as in your pictures.

    The gun was a base model Ruger 22/45,,,
    You could tell the cartridges were not pointing up correctly,,,
    We had the same mis-feed problem with all three of his Ruger magazines.

    We loaded some federal Bulk Pack and could see the ammo pointing up properly,,,
    We didn't have any mis-feeding problems with that ammo,,,
    CCI Mini-Mags worked perfectly as well.

    I might add that the Remington worked perfectly out of my CZ-75B Kadet,,,
    It was only with the Ruger 22/45 that we experienced that feed problem.

    Later on I compared the CCI & Federal with the Remington cartridges,,,
    The total length of the Remington cartridge was slightly less than the Federal & CCI.

    When I say slightly I mean less than a 1/16 of an inch shorter,,,
    But it was consistent after looking at a handful of the three different brands.

    I have many thousands of Federal and about 2,000 of the Remington,,,
    The Remington shoots fine from my revolvers and bolt rifles,,,
    So I'm happy to have it to conserve my other ammo.

    Aarond

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    Of all the ammo I have shot in the past year I would agree that Remington Golden is the most prone to failures in my assortment of semis. It shoots fine out of my bolts and revolvers as I rarely have a dud in any of those guns and some are old and rusty.
     
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    The Ruger pistols often show this particular problem with the Golden Bullet -- they "fold" instead of climbing the feed ramp causing this issue. None of the other ammo I've ever used in our Rugers experiences this. Guns with gentler feed paths don't generally show this problem. These failures, the high dud rate, and too frequent blown rims that happen in all pistols is why I quit buying it.
     
  16. MattShlock

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    Missfeed? Magazine!? I love that you are all actually arguing about who's the cheapest person...
     
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    Since those golden bullets are so bad I'll help y'all out and take them off your hands. I'll shoot just about anything as long as I'm not competing! lol
     
  18. Davek1977

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    Huh? I see no such thing going on, just a simple statement of fact as to whats causing the issue. No one is saying anyone is cheaper than the next guy, but rather people are sharing their real world experiences with this ammo and why it casues the type of damage to ammo as shown in the OP. Its not a matter of someone being cheaper than someone else....its a matter of addressing the problem, which is what people tried to do. Not sure what you mean.....?
     
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    I am a range officer and we have a dud bucket for unfired rounds. Of the 22lr. in that bucket, 90% is Remington Golden. In my opinion, if it is Remington, you have to expect a few problems that come with the low price.

    Even in these times of scarce .22 ammo, yesterday I passed on a large bulk pail of this stuff.
     
  20. ID-shooting

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    I get those "smilies" with my Ruger Standard from time to time. Happens with all ammo brands though. I will say I probably see it more with cheap bulk packs than I do with Mini Mags and the like. I may get a FTF like that every 4 or 5 mags. Guess I just accept it and move on. Cheap ammo gets cheap results but not enough to make me shelve everything.

    Damn, I want to call in sick and go shooting now.
     
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    I still buy Rem Golden Bullets for the kids and grandkids to shoot up. For hunting and serious target shooting, I like CCI Mini Mags 40 grain solids and Winchester Super X 40 grain solids. In fairness, I haven't had problems with Golden Rems .hdbiker
     
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    Interesting about the loaded length of the Golden Bullets relative to feed issues. Now I need to get some out and compare as I'm curious.
     
  23. rcmodel

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    Here are some measurements I did some time back.

    SAAMI OAL length is .975" Min- 1.00" Max.

    CCI Mini-Mag solid = .988".
    Win MKII Pistol Match solid = .987".
    Win Wildcat solid = .980".
    Fed Lightening solid = .979".
    Win Super-X HP = .973".
    PMC Zapper HP = .971".
    Rem Golden bullet HP = .963".
    Aguila SSS solid 60 grain = .956".

    rc
     
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    I'm still baffled by this.
    I frequently use Remington Golden bulk in new gun tests, and I've used it personally off & on for several years.
    I just don't get all these problems that others seem to.

    Got one misfire a while back, but that happens in other brands.
    Use it in pistols, revolvers, boltguns, and semi-autos.
    I'm doing something wrong, obviously. :)
    Denis
     
  25. Carl N. Brown

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    Those bullets were "splitting" as the noses struck the edge of the barrel chamber as they left the magazine.

    I have had such problems with Remington Golden Bullets in some guns that feed round nose .22 LR OK but jammed on any flat nose or truncated cone bullets. I have few problems shooting Remington Golden Bullets in my Remington Nylon 66, but use Federal, CCI or Winchester SuperX in my other .22s. And I have discontiued buying any trucated cone bullets.

    ADDED: Test firing my son's Colt .22 M4 (made in Germany with a tight metric chamber), I gave up on golden bullet chambering, much less firing, but did a couple of 30 rd magazine dumps with Win SuperX (as sold in 100 rd box). I traded him Win SuperX for his remaining Rem Goldens. When I was a kid, 1960s, Remington Golden Bullet (50 or 100 rd box) was my first choice; currently, it is almost like they are making it on machinery that should have beeen retired (From my experience in Colt M4, I can only conclude that Rem is fatter than Win; some of my older .22s like it). However, the Rem Golden Bullet hollowpoint has always had a flat nose that gives feeding problems in certain guns but not others.
     
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