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I have been rather into my 1911 & BHP the last few years... While my poor .357 has been out to pasture...
Remington 6-1/2 SRP
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tested some cartridges loaded with the 6-1/2
I got out to the club today and popped off a dozen rounds loaded with the WSR primer and a dozen loaded with the Rem 6-1/2.
No pierced primers...
No indications of any damage to the bolt face...
Here's a pic of the cases... the Rem primers are the silver ones in the bottom row.
Indents seem about the same, except the one in the bottom left, which did appear to sink in deeper.
Any thoughts or comments??
I got out to the club today and popped off a dozen rounds loaded with the WSR primer and a dozen loaded with the Rem 6-1/2.
No pierced primers...
No indications of any damage to the bolt face...
Here's a pic of the cases... the Rem primers are the silver ones in the bottom row.
Indents seem about the same, except the one in the bottom left, which did appear to sink in deeper.
Any thoughts or comments??
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I dont like the looks of the bottom left one. Keep an eye on them. Only about 3% will fail, if any do??
beatledog7
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Agreed. Primer#1 on bottom looks possibly pierced.
I bought some 6-1/2s a while back before I knew about the Remington warning. I have used some of them in my Savage Model 25 (.223 Rem) but loaded them lightly with itty-bitty bullets (as light as 36gr as I recall). No piercings after about a dozen fired. There are about 60 more with up to 40gr "slugs" to be fired.
The 6-1/2s do work quite well in lightly loaded 148gr DEWC target rounds for .38SPL. I just backed off the normal Bullseye weight by .2gr. No issues at all in S&W 642 or Ruger Security Six -- couldn't tell any difference shooting them. Given that, I have no doubt they would work fine in 9mm as well, or even .380 Auto. But since I already know they work in the DEWCs, I'll just use the rest for .38s and call it a lesson.
I bought some 6-1/2s a while back before I knew about the Remington warning. I have used some of them in my Savage Model 25 (.223 Rem) but loaded them lightly with itty-bitty bullets (as light as 36gr as I recall). No piercings after about a dozen fired. There are about 60 more with up to 40gr "slugs" to be fired.
The 6-1/2s do work quite well in lightly loaded 148gr DEWC target rounds for .38SPL. I just backed off the normal Bullseye weight by .2gr. No issues at all in S&W 642 or Ruger Security Six -- couldn't tell any difference shooting them. Given that, I have no doubt they would work fine in 9mm as well, or even .380 Auto. But since I already know they work in the DEWCs, I'll just use the rest for .38s and call it a lesson.
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So what's a "normal bullseye load"?
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There's no daylight coming through the deep indent primer on the lower left, so I don't think it's technically pierced.
I should error on the side of prudence I guess, and not load any more .223 with them.
I should error on the side of prudence I guess, and not load any more .223 with them.
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By that I meant the classic standard amount of Bullseye powder in a 148gr DEWC for .38SPL, 2.7 or 2.8gr.
I loaded my 6-1/2 Remington DEWCs with 2.5gr.
I loaded my 6-1/2 Remington DEWCs with 2.5gr.
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SSN Vet, you might want to take up loading for the M-1 Carbine! 
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I seriously think you're right, error on the side of safety...
Like you said above, you just found a good supply of primers for your .357 Magnum. Try and find some Rem 7 1/2, CCI #41 or even CCI-400 or CCI-450 primers instead.
Right now I'm down to my last 400 Rem 7 1/2 primers but I do have 1000 CCI-450 primers on the shelf. I can't find any CCI #41 primers without buying online and I don't need enough to justify the $27.50 Hazmat fee. (what a ripoff that is!)
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An M1 carbine is definately on my short list... and I would definately reload for it, should I get one.
Prices just seam ridiculous though...
I should have jumped in when CMP had a glut of them a few years back.
ArchAngelCD
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You and me both brother. I bought a Garand and a 1093 Springfield but I didn't get to the M1 Carbine before they ran out of them. They were a good deal at the time...
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I agree, both bottom left primers don't look good.
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Please educate me here...
I was under the impression that I would see daylight through a pierced primer.
I was under the impression that I would see daylight through a pierced primer.
Probably not. The center of the anvil covers the flash hole. The openings in the anvil do not line up with the flash hole.
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Stick one end in water and and blow on the other and look for bubbles, not that the human mouth can produce 50-60000 psi but you understand. It looks failed to me too.
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Well ... after a trip to KTP last night... I'm back to using WSR primer... as they were out of Rem 7-1/2 and CCI 41s
According to the info I found on line, the cup thickness of the WSR is only a couple thou thicker than the Rem 6-1/2, but the alloy must be harder, as I've never had a primer come out of my AR looking like the one in my photo above. Nor have I ever had a slam fire.
So I'm back to where I started.... using WSR.
Between hazmat fees and stores always being out of stock, sourcing primers has to be the biggest pita about reloading....
According to the info I found on line, the cup thickness of the WSR is only a couple thou thicker than the Rem 6-1/2, but the alloy must be harder, as I've never had a primer come out of my AR looking like the one in my photo above. Nor have I ever had a slam fire.
So I'm back to where I started.... using WSR.
Between hazmat fees and stores always being out of stock, sourcing primers has to be the biggest pita about reloading....
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