Remington 770 Real World Review and Mild Modifications
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Wylie1
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juk,
Before hunting I take a few practice shots to make sure the rifle I'm using is on mark and if I have to I'll make adjustments then. I have a few warmer days coming up next week if the forecast is correct so they may just give me an idea as my last day at the range was just about freezing temps. Good info, thanks!
Thanks Mr.T,
Honestly I wouldn't suggest this rifle to anyone being what I have been through with and I may see one future issue to deal with still. It looks like I may have to do something with the magazine's spring action clip in the stock next. I don't think it should be a real major issue to cure but all the flaws in the rifle sure add up.
The last time at the range (I forgot to mention this!)when I loaded the magazine the first shot made the magazine fall out of the rifle. It looks like the plastic retainer for the spring on one side of the clip has a crack in it.
Before hunting I take a few practice shots to make sure the rifle I'm using is on mark and if I have to I'll make adjustments then. I have a few warmer days coming up next week if the forecast is correct so they may just give me an idea as my last day at the range was just about freezing temps. Good info, thanks!
Thanks Mr.T,
Honestly I wouldn't suggest this rifle to anyone being what I have been through with and I may see one future issue to deal with still. It looks like I may have to do something with the magazine's spring action clip in the stock next. I don't think it should be a real major issue to cure but all the flaws in the rifle sure add up.
The last time at the range (I forgot to mention this!)when I loaded the magazine the first shot made the magazine fall out of the rifle. It looks like the plastic retainer for the spring on one side of the clip has a crack in it.
BrocLuno
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Fascinating - this design seems to be the culmination of the been counters at Remington over the engineers and craftsmen? It sounds like they have taken every modern material or process and applied it in the least desirable way?
Plastic is just that - a substance that will deform over time with heat or pressure. To get it to stop doing that, it must have some sort of minimally compressible reinforcing fiber like glass or carbon. I have a 597 with a similar stock. It's not a joy to work on, but it is pretty weatherproof. Of course my rifle does not put any real demands on the stock - yours does.
I like all your mods and your thinking. It is progressing, but holy cow - that's a lot of work. The mild steel receiver is an issue that might cause problems with some mods. Shallow thread are another - yikes, it's one thing after another. Oh well, keep going and you WILL BE the guru of the 770
Plastic is just that - a substance that will deform over time with heat or pressure. To get it to stop doing that, it must have some sort of minimally compressible reinforcing fiber like glass or carbon. I have a 597 with a similar stock. It's not a joy to work on, but it is pretty weatherproof. Of course my rifle does not put any real demands on the stock - yours does.
I like all your mods and your thinking. It is progressing, but holy cow - that's a lot of work. The mild steel receiver is an issue that might cause problems with some mods. Shallow thread are another - yikes, it's one thing after another. Oh well, keep going and you WILL BE the guru of the 770
Wylie1
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I'm not going for guru status, I'm just a perpetual tinkerer trying to make the best of what I have.
Wylie1
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This rifle now shoots better than I can at least on days like yesterday. Conditions were windy and raining yesterday where my friend and I set up to shoot.
I started out at 100 yards and forgot to run a dry patch or two through the barrel before shooting so I'll just have to try it next time and see if the first shot is fouled again.
Even in crap conditions I managed to center a bulls eye as well as anyone could ask for from 100 yards so we moved back to 200 yards.
With the 40.9 grains of IMR 4895, 168gr MatchKings and the Nikon set just a hair off 9 the BDC's first circle down from the crosshairs sets point of impact dead center of the circle at 200 yards. Well as far as I can tell being the conditions we were shooting in.
Time for the sled.
Edit: To help insure a longer life of accuracy out of this rifle I built a bore guide and modified my cleaning rod with some 3/16 in shrink tubing.
The bore guide is soon to be lined with JB Weld thinned with denatured Alcohol and turned on a 6rpm rack used for coating fishing rods. Extending the aluminum tube with the brass tubing was just using materials at hand and makes the patches blue. No biggie, it can be fixed.
I started out at 100 yards and forgot to run a dry patch or two through the barrel before shooting so I'll just have to try it next time and see if the first shot is fouled again.
Even in crap conditions I managed to center a bulls eye as well as anyone could ask for from 100 yards so we moved back to 200 yards.
With the 40.9 grains of IMR 4895, 168gr MatchKings and the Nikon set just a hair off 9 the BDC's first circle down from the crosshairs sets point of impact dead center of the circle at 200 yards. Well as far as I can tell being the conditions we were shooting in.
Time for the sled.
Edit: To help insure a longer life of accuracy out of this rifle I built a bore guide and modified my cleaning rod with some 3/16 in shrink tubing.
The bore guide is soon to be lined with JB Weld thinned with denatured Alcohol and turned on a 6rpm rack used for coating fishing rods. Extending the aluminum tube with the brass tubing was just using materials at hand and makes the patches blue. No biggie, it can be fixed.
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Wylie1
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The towel got tossed in today
This is by far the worst rifle I have ever put my hands on.
My dark bored 1942 Mosin Nagant is more consistant and more accurate with hand loads.
Just when I thought the 770 had stabilized and was shooting good groups I'd take it out the next time to see a different POI.
I haven't cleaned it since it went to the range last because I'm completely sick of this junk representation of rifle.
I ended up taking my deer last year with my muzzleloading rifle after having to pass on long range shots at nice bucks because this rifle just wouldn't inspire the confidence to shoot beyond 100 yards.
Almost a year and a half now and I've emailed Remington and told them I will never buy one of there products, I don't care if it's a pocket knife I get a $10 refund on that costs $5, I'm not doing business with them.
This is by far the worst rifle I have ever put my hands on.
My dark bored 1942 Mosin Nagant is more consistant and more accurate with hand loads.
Just when I thought the 770 had stabilized and was shooting good groups I'd take it out the next time to see a different POI.
I haven't cleaned it since it went to the range last because I'm completely sick of this junk representation of rifle.
I ended up taking my deer last year with my muzzleloading rifle after having to pass on long range shots at nice bucks because this rifle just wouldn't inspire the confidence to shoot beyond 100 yards.
Almost a year and a half now and I've emailed Remington and told them I will never buy one of there products, I don't care if it's a pocket knife I get a $10 refund on that costs $5, I'm not doing business with them.
Kachok
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Amen brother, I swore off Remington after my third rifle in a row failed me, I used to be a hardcore fan so I was heartbroken. Now I shoot Savages and my fantastic Tikka. I always warn people to stay away from 770s they are the worst bolt gun on the market.
hardluk1
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I to would buy a SS savage or tika.
theotherwaldo
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Thank you, Wylie1. You just saved me from a $300.00 mistake.
I had just put $35.00 down on one of these clunkers. I'm writing it off and telling the dealer to put that Model 770 back on the shelf.
Again, thanks.
I had just put $35.00 down on one of these clunkers. I'm writing it off and telling the dealer to put that Model 770 back on the shelf.
Again, thanks.
Wylie1
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Hi theotherWaldo,
I'm glad I could help. From what I have gathered some of these 770s will shoot but getting one that is accurate is a crap shoot not many will be willing to throw $300 at. Even if one does shoot well right out of the box it may be short lived with all the malfunctions to eventually overcome.
I now own a Tikka T3 Lite and it is worlds away from the Rem. I may do a Bell and Carlson stock and a slightly higher magnification scope if I read it's accuracy correctly. Seems to open holes at 100 yards and not by much, serious tack driver! There are too many budget rifles with so much more to offer than the Rem 770.
Marlin XS7/XL7 or now known as X7
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I haven't been able to gather much information yet but another that has gained my personal interest as a starter bolt action rifle to build on would be the (Guaranteed M.O.A. out of the box)Thomson Center Dimension. The look isn't for everyone I guess, I don't mind it but I'm a function before form type for the most part anyway.
I'm glad I could help. From what I have gathered some of these 770s will shoot but getting one that is accurate is a crap shoot not many will be willing to throw $300 at. Even if one does shoot well right out of the box it may be short lived with all the malfunctions to eventually overcome.
I now own a Tikka T3 Lite and it is worlds away from the Rem. I may do a Bell and Carlson stock and a slightly higher magnification scope if I read it's accuracy correctly. Seems to open holes at 100 yards and not by much, serious tack driver! There are too many budget rifles with so much more to offer than the Rem 770.
Marlin XS7/XL7 or now known as X7
Savage/Stevens 110
Weatherby Vanguard
I haven't been able to gather much information yet but another that has gained my personal interest as a starter bolt action rifle to build on would be the (Guaranteed M.O.A. out of the box)Thomson Center Dimension. The look isn't for everyone I guess, I don't mind it but I'm a function before form type for the most part anyway.
Patocazador
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I agree wholeheartedly with Mr. T. Of course, the newest Remington 700 I have is over 20 years old and I love the 700 action.
Wylie, I applauded your efforts to begin with but assumed (correctly as it turned out) that this project was going to be a case of diminishing returns. I would have quit before the clip fell apart.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but trading this new rifle for a quality used barreled action when you first got it was surely the way to go.
I really enjoyed reading this thread until the point where I wished I could have grabbed you by the shoulders and shaken you until you tossed it in the trash. Piece of mind is worth more than a free junky rifle. I am sorry it didn't work out with all the time and effort you put into it.
Kachok
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Gatta love those Tikkas, a 6lbs, refined, tack driver for under $500!! Who needs Remington's half baked garbage?
Screamin'Eagle
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Wylie,
If you're done tinkering with the 770, I'll have a stab at it.
If you're done tinkering with the 770, I'll have a stab at it.
Coal Dragger
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Well can't say I'm surprised that things turned out this way, but big kudos to Wylie1 for giving it the old college try!
Wylie1
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Scariest thing is I may still throw some more powder and lead through this thing. After pulling the scope and putting it on the Tikka I had to mail it into Nikon, wouldn't zero or adjust correctly. Here I sit with two brand new 3-9x40 Prostaffs BDCs returned from Nikon waiting for 4-12x40. One major flaw to rifles without iron sights if you ask me! The extra cash for the CRT just wasn't in the cards.
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