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remington 870 age

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by tango3065, Jan 24, 2003.

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  1. tango3065

    tango3065 Member

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    Can anyone tell me how old my gun is from the serial number? Also I need to know if my 870 will fire 3" magnums the barrel says 23/4 or 3 but could of been changed but probably not, I think this gun came out as a turkey special due to the camo stock, barrel,and xtra full choke.
     
  2. tango3065

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    The serial number starts with an -A and ends with a -M
     
  3. JohnBT

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    I believe that serial numbers ending in M are magnum receivers, but it's late and I'm sleepy :)

    I just copied this from the RimfireCentral/Remington forum:

    For shotguns with removeable barrels, the code will be valid for the manufacture of the barrel; maybe for the receiver, as barrels do get switched around.

    According to the "Blue Book of Gun Values", the coding continues as follows:

    Month Codes: [first letter]
    B - L - A - C - K - P - O - W - D - E - R - X
    1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12

    Year:______Code: [second (and third*) letters]
    1950_______ WW
    1951_______ XX
    1952_______ YY
    1953_______ ZZ
    1954_______ A
    1955_______ B
    1956_______ C
    1957_______ D
    1958_______ E
    1959_______ F

    1960_______ G
    1961_______ H
    1962_______ J
    1963_______ K
    1964_______ L
    1965_______ M
    1966_______ N
    1967_______ P
    1968_______ R
    1969_______ S

    1970_______ T
    1971_______ U
    1972_______ W
    1973_______ X
    1974_______ Y
    1975_______ Z
    1976_______ I
    1977_______ O
    1978_______ Q
    1979_______ V

    1980_______ A
    1981_______ B
    1982_______ C
    1983_______ D
    1984_______ E
    1985_______ F
    1986_______ G
    1987_______ H
    1988_______ I
    1989_______ J

    1990_______ K
    1991_______ L
    1992_______ M
    1993_______ N
    1994_______ O
    1995_______ P
    1996_______ Q
    1997_______ R
    1998_______ S
    1999_______ T

    * the years 1943 though 1953 had double letters: ie, MM = 1943

    As maybe seen, the year code letters duplicate; some knowledge of when the model was introduced should resolve the actual year of manufacture.
     
  4. hartmen

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    ive also have a remington 870. its serial number is 813545v
    the 3 letter code on the side of barrel is ckq. has walnut forend and stock and has checkered pattern. no vented barrel. barrel measures 28" guns looks very old. i believe from what ive looked up its a 1956 or 1963 model. any help is welcomed. i can provide pictures if neassary. thanks
     
  5. Tim the student

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    Holy old thread Batman!

    Hartmen, welcome to THR. You can call Remington and they will date it for you. I don't have the number, but it can be pretty easily found on their site.
     
  6. hartmen

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    yes its an old thread. seems like its the only one that pops up for me on google. ive gone to the remingtion website and it just keeps sending me in circles. ive emailed them and its been over 3 weeks now with no answer. i can post pics if it will help
     
  7. Fred Fuller

    Fred Fuller Moderator Emeritus

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    The only reliable source is a human employee at Remington. They don't have a list online, for whatever reason.

    Call 1-800-243-9700, during business hours in NC, and go through the phone tree. They'll need your model number (870) and whole serial number, and they'll look it up for you.

    lpl
     
  8. JNewell

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    "V" suffix indicates 2 3/4" Wingmaster. HTH...
     
  9. hartmen

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    o is that what the V stands for? heck i didnt know. learn something new every day.
     
  10. JNewell

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    Yep.

    Remington serial numbers are a mess. The variables include a year-range related prefix, the serial number, and a model-related suffix. I have two 870s that Remington CS people have repeatedly told me they have no records for...the numbers don't exist. Well, that's obviously not true at my end, which means there's something really wrong with the records their CS people have access to. BTW, I'm not slamming their CS people - they are consistently polite and diligent and patient. The problem is the factory records, apparently.

    They won't express the thoughts above ^^^ in exactly those words, but I've spent a lot of time talking to various CS reps and they concede that their records are, ummm, sub-optimal, and they will state that this is the reason that you can't do an online s/n look-up.
     
  11. hartmen

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    here is a pic of mine. i have swapped the factory wingmaster barrel for an express.

    [​IMG]
     
  12. hartmen

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    what do u guys think?:cool:
     
  13. Roccobro

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    WELCOME OT THE HIGH ROAD!

    Justin
     
  14. hartmen

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    called remingtion today. its 1963 model!

    yay

    how much do you guys think its worth? if i put the original barrel back on.....insurance reasons
     
  15. Tim the student

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    maybe 200 - 300. Hard to see the condition it is in.
     
  16. Virginian

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    $125 to $150 if that's paint in the checkering. And that original gloss blue is kind of hurting.
     
  17. hartmen

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    gun has been reblued. had a friend do it for me. the photo does no justice. i had my wifes grandfather redo the stock and forend because they had like 10 coats of red paint on them. it was awesome seeing the paint being stripped off.
     
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    The "V" does not mean 2 3/4". A buddy of mine just picked up a Wingmaster today with a "V" as the first letter and its a magnum.
     
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    That's not correct. If the receiver says "Magnum" and has a "v" suffix, there are a lot of people who would like to see a picture. Please review the following thread:

    http://www.remingtonsociety.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4261
     
  20. Fred Fuller

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    The last letter in the serial number on modern Remington shotguns is the receiver code. It tells you what shells the receiver was set up at the factory to handle. It's the location of the ejector that makes this determination in 870s, and a 12 gauge 870 set up to handle 3" shells at the factory has a serial number that ends in M. Some 12 ga. 870s have had new ejectors installed that allow them to handle 3" shells, however, so serial numbers can only be relied upon to determine factory original status.

    fwiw,

    lpl
     
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    First letter 'V' means it was made between 1978 and 1984. Last letter 'V' means 2-3/4" 12 gauge. Last letter 'M' means 3" Magnum 12 gauge.
     
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    I stand corrected. I thought we were talking about the first prefix, not the last.

    [​IMG]
     
  23. JNewell

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    That's why we call the last prefix a suffix. :D Sorry, couldn't resist a friendly poke in the ribs. ;)

    Even if it's not worth a fortune in cash, there is nothing quite like those older Wingmasters. Both the metal and the wood are really nice.
     
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    It's worth whatever somebody will pay for it. :)

    As a collector it is worth very little with all the "fixes" it has had done.

    I paid just under $200 for a correct, original and clean C&R 870 not too long ago.

    Justin
     
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    Dup post.

    Sorry
     
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