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Remington "Golden Bullet" 22 ammo- unsatisfied!

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  1. evan price

    evan price Member

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    I bought a box of Remington's "Golden Bullet" 22LR duringthe Obama scare because I was low on plinkers and Federals were not in stock (my usual 22 and I like them).

    I shot them up last couple weeks and was amazed by the high level of fail to fire I had. Now that I cast bullets I save the duds and break them down. Remelt the lead, brass in scrap bucket, powder in the tomato garden. Seems better than throwing them away.

    There were 92 duds in that one box. That to me is an unacceptable level of failure. Gun was a Ruger Single-Six in good condition, all of them had been restruck at 180 degrees and had two nice, deep firing pin hits. There were MORE than 92 duds, but the 92 are the ones that DID NOT go off when restruck!

    Broke them down today when I cleaned the range bag.

    69 of them had NO priming compound in the rim. Checked the powder- no pieces mixed in. Just powder.

    10 of them had NO priming compound and NO powder. Just a clean, shiny, EMPTY case with a bullet pressed in.

    The rest had gaps or thin spots in the priming compound, loose bits of priming compound in the powder, etc.

    I don't have the box because I wasn't thinking and used it as a target, so no idea of lot number.

    Use your own judgement, but as for me, no more "Golden Bullets" ever again.

    I realize NO 22 rimfire is going to be 100%- it's the nature of the beast and even the Federals I like have the occaisional fail to fire, but it's usually one or two in a box of 550, not nearly 20%!
     
  2. BADUNAME37

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    You should notify Remington of this, as I'm sure they have had other complaints - I'm sure yours was not the only box loaded from that batch. They should know exactly what you are talking about!
     
  3. Vern Humphrey

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    I will no longer buy Remington ammunition. It's one thing to be frustrated when you have a dud while plinking, and another thing when you have a squirrel in your sights. And another thing again when it's a deer or elk.
     
  4. Tim L

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    That was my experience with Golden Bullets several years ago when I swore to never buy them again. Definitly not worth the trouble or price.
     
  5. Onward Allusion

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    I can relate. I used to shoot Remington Golden too, but I started getting about 3 to 5 duds per box of 50 (FIFTY not 500!!!) using several different guns. I've since given up on Remington Golden and use CCI or Aquila. The higher end - more expensive 22LR loads from Remington seem to be ok, however but Golden sure left a bad taste.

     
  6. Rail Driver

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    I got a bad box recently too, bullets crimped or seated badly causing feeding issues ( gun previously fed the ammo fine until this box ). Also more than a handful of duds
     
  7. Col. Plink

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    Can echo them seated poorly but generally have better performance than with Federal bulk red box (more FTF's). Remi goldens are more powerful in my estimation.
     
  8. Robert Wilson

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    Remington has a well deserved reputation for unreliable ignition with their rimfire ammunition. In my experience the bulk stuff is the worst but even their more expensive .22 can be poor. I buy a box every few years to see if they have improved. My most recent was a $5 box of 50 Subsonics. Roughly 10% failed to fire. I'll try again in another few years...
     
  9. az_imuth

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    Remington's rimfire ammo that I have used was more of a hassle than it was worth. Last time I bought a box of 500 it was just one dud after the next. Unless I'm totally desperate with no other alternative, I'll never buy their .22 ammo again.

    Federal bulk works great for me, and finding a dud in one is a RARE event.
     
  10. Mal H

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    I have never had any Remington .22LR ammo that was totally satisfactory. Their .22 Short ammo is just fine. I've never had a FTF with it out of several thousand fired.

    This is a shame because their centerfire ammo is usually just fine. I've never understood why their Long Rifle ammo isn't. You'd think they would have fixed the problem years ago.
     
  11. bannockburn

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    I can echo similar problems with Remington rimfire ammo. Way too much time spent clearing all the various problems; at least 4 or 5 per 10 round magazine. They could give me some free and I wouldn't use it. Not worth it.
     
  12. Zoidberg523

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    For me, the worst has been Winchester (sorry, don't mean to hijack the thread). Everything (ammo-wise) that I buy from them seems to be poor quality - all calibers and types, WWB to Super-X.

    I bought some 22 magnums, and when I opened them I immediately noticed that all of the brass was filthy. I hesitated to even fire them in my rifle (Marlin 25MN), and when I finally did (ran out of CCI Maxi-mags) about 5 of them (out of 50) were FTF's. Accuracy out of my gun was so-so, but nowhere near great (I know this sort of thing varies by firearm, so take that for what it's worth).

    Next, I bought a brick of Super-X 22LR hollowpoints. Same thing again - dirty brass. I loaded my Ruger 10/22 at the range, and fired maybe 5 rounds (from a factory 10 round rotary mag) before I got a FTF. I then spent an hour getting FTF's and stovepipe FTE's (extremely rare with other types of ammo, through my rifle). Then, about five rounds out of the brick were unusable. The bullets themselves (though seated in cases) were deformed - many were almost bent in half, and the copper jackets were torn, exposing the lead core, which was mutilated. I really wish I had my girlfriends camera (I saved them). It looked like two pairs of pliers had bent the bullet in different directions, until the tops were at 45 degree angles to the cases - I don't even know how they got them into the boxes with other bullets.

    Not long ago I bought a box of five 3/4 oz 20Ga slugs, and on two of the shells, the brass was scalloped all the way down to the powder charge!!! :what:

    Never again will I buy any type of Winchester ammo. Pathetic doesn't even come close to describing them. :cuss:
     
  13. Tilos

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    Remington 22LR ammo

    Pretty much known as junk throughout the shooting world.

    it still gets the bargain hunters and those dealing with a shortage though.
     
  14. Zach S

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    I feel your pain. They just take a dump in the box and call it a quality product...

    I got some from a good lot though. It was on sale, I didn't know any better, and I got several boxes. Ran as well as the federal bulk (which is between 99 and 100%). Despite reading the many bad reviews, I got more...

    I'm slowly getting through those three boxes. I typically load one or two in a mag to practice clearing malfunctions. It works well for that, considering that about 75% of the box actually fires.
     
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    I don't quite understand how they are able to continue selling the stuff. I wouldn't think there are enough inexperienced shooters willing to try it out, and I have a hard time believing anyone would keep buying it after the first time. Maybe there are a lot of folks out there who have never tried anything else and assume that a 10% failure rate is just the way things are with .22 LR.
     
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    Remington .22lr Ammo

    I've had good boxes and bad boxes of the Remington Golden. I don't buy much anymore though bc of that. I like Remington's shotgun shells but not the centerfire ammo.
     
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    Center Fire Ammo and Shot gun no issues with Remington. Yellow Jackets no problems, Golden Bullets about 10-25% FTF. Subsonic pretty good but since about 1980 the often cursed Thunderbolts have just plain sucked. I finished a box in a Revolver and still had to dispose of 15 out of 50 in the box.
     
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    I think Golden Bullets never had a good rep. I always heard bad things, (stay away from them, buy federal or other brands)

    If it was the last thing on the shelfs I would use them, maybe, I do not know... 92 duds out of 500? thats like 1 failure per mazazine.... ?
     
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    I ran both through my chrono a while back. Remington claims 20fps faster than Federal but averaged almost 40fps less. They also had a larger deviation from slowest to fastest shot of 24fps more than Federal. Less powerful, less consistent, and less accurate. I'll stick with Federal for all my plinking needs.
     
  20. LEVRLOVR

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    Bulk, I always buy Federal and avoid Remington for many of the reasons stated here.

    Top end, I always go CCI.
     
  21. rodinal220

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    Yes,the Remington Golden Bullet bulk pack stuff has been pretty awful.I have had numerous low powder rounds that fail to cycle the action and one case rupture.I have not had any problems with the bulk pack Winchester but I'll gladly pay the extra buck for the Winny.
     
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    Check out http://www.rimfirecentral.com if you really want to hear some Rem ammo bashing. I was recently given some Fed bulk packs and some Rem Golden Bullets that were about 15 years old. They both worked fine. Haven't had a single hiccup yet with either in my T/C .22 Classic. Last time at the range I tried out some Rem Target .22lrs in my CZ 452 Ultra Lux. First 2 five shot groups printed ragged holes at 50 yrds. Next group pulled 2 fliers about 1.5". Fourth group pulled 3 fliers. Fifth group made 1 ragged hole about .4". To be fair, I had put about 500 rnds thru my Ultra Lux that day so it may just need a good cleaning.I tried a bulk pack of new G.B.s purchased this year. They were so dirty, inconsistent, and unreliable I gave them to a man and his son at the range. No more G.B.s for me.Remington should know better.
     
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    Well, this is nice. I just checked, and I have just under half a .30 cal. ammo can of Remington Golden Bullet .22LR's. Gonna have to relegate them to plinking use only.
     
  24. 2ndAmFan

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    My wife has had problems with a box of 525 Remington Golden Bullets she bought as plinkers too. She says she's getting about 10-15% dud rounds, both in a semiauto 10/22 and in an old Winchester bolt action, and feed problems in both guns as well. I checked it out and if anything she is giving a low estimate of the problems.
    As LEVRLOVR said, "Top end I always go with CCI." I'm glad I stocked up on Stingers pre-Obama!
     
  25. berettaprofessor

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    Had some...gave them away to an enemy.
     
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