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Remington model 58

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by patentmike, Oct 20, 2005.

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  1. mofugly13

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    Here's a couple of photos a friend from another website I frequent ( www.coloradoK5.com ) posted for me:

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    And his response:

    I ordered the carrier group from Numrich yesterday, but I don't know what the "group" consists of. I hope it at least has the carrier dog riveted to it.
     
  2. Old 58

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    OK, lets give this a try. On order and waiting for delivery.
     
  3. mofugly13

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    I think we a are on the right track. I ordered a field service manual fot the rem 58 from www.noveltyguns.com. It doesn't have any pictures, but it does have a lot of well done sketches, and the sketch of the carrier shows a little tab as part of the carrier that engages the square hole in the carrier latch. So that's good news. Another piece of good news is that it identifies the carrier assembly as consisting of the carrier and the carrier dog.
     
  4. mofugly13

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    I got the carrier group today, it has the carrier dog riveted to it and includes the carrier release button and spring, got her installed, and we are in business. The bolt now locks back like it should, I can't wait to test fire it now. The invoice that came with the part shows it for an 1100 as well, so I guess it is the same part. The only reservation I have is that it's black parkerized, instead of stainless like the original, but that is just me being nit-picky. I would like to know which 1100 model came with a stainless carrier, so I can maybe buy that one straight from remington somewhere down the line. But, at least now we're fully functional. I'm a happy camper.
     
  5. Old 58

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    Great news mofugly. Haven't received mine yet, hopefully tomorrow, then there will be 2 happy campers :D
     
  6. Virginian

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    I have talked to some other folks. They tell me an 1100/11-87 carrier will work (and which is apparently what you got - the Sportsman models are flat black), but that the originals were chrome plated, just like the early 870 carriers, and that the tab that engages the latch was made as part of the carrier, not part of a seperate button like on the 1100. But, at least now you have a workable combination. 1100 carriers were never chromed, just the button. I will keep an eye out for an original 58 and try to get a picture. I used to clean 58s a lot, but it has been 47 years now.
     
  7. Old 58

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    Happy Camper II

    Well got the carrier group today and all is well. Like mofugly, it is black parkerized and came with the carrier dog riveted on. Locks in place just as it should. There were some minor differences on the new part. The carrier dog is reshaped a little, and there seems to be reinforcing ribs on the new tab on the carrier, and a larger pin on the release button. Here are a few pics of the old and new carrier group to show what was broke, and the changes. Hope this thread helps those in the future. Big thanks to mofugly13 and Virginian for their help.[​IMG]
     

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  8. mofugly13

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    Hooray! I'm very happy we got this worked out.

    It was this post by Virginia that got me looking for the missing part on the carrier:

    Thanks, Virginian!
     
  9. chuck61

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    Remington 58 parts

    Does any one know where I can get parts for a 58
     
  10. Old 58

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    Heres where I got the parts I needed to get my 58 up and running.
     
  11. chuck61

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    Thanks

    Thanks Old 58 I talked to thim and the part was out of stock. I need the action bar assembly:):):)
     
  12. Old 58

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    He's out too. Not sure where else you can get it. Good luck.
     
  13. hydrology_joe

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    My friend inherited a Sportsman 58 which appears to have been never cleaned. Can anyone explain to me how to field strip it so I can get it cleaned for him?
     
  14. Sam1911

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    1) Remove magazine cap.
    2) Slide barrel and forearm off mag tube.
    3) Pull cocking handle straight out of the bolt.
    4) Slide bolt, carrier, slide, etc. forward until you can lift the action rails "button" up out of the gas piston, and then take everything forward out of the receiver.

    I might have missed something, but that's the gist of it. The 11-48, Model 58, and the 878 are all in the same family (even though the 11-48 is recoil-operated instead of gas) and use a lot of the same parts. Disassembly is very similar, but not identical.

    If you get into it, you should be able to figure your way through if I've missed any steps...

    Be careful with that cocking handle. It slips into the "slide" and is held by a ball detent. That ball can get fiercly stuck and if it does, it isn't hard to damage the slide while trying to free it back up.

    Here's a schematic:

    http://www.e-gunparts.com/products_new.asp?CatID=5678

    Good luck!

    -Sam
     
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  15. mofugly13

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    So, has anyone here actually drilled gas ports in an 870 barrel for use on their SPT 58? I plan on doing this with an 870 barrl in the future, so I can have a barrel with interchangeable chokes.

    I plan on locating the holes by placing the proper sized pin into my existing 58 barrels gas port(s), and then building a fixture for my drill press that will put that pin right into the chuck. Then remove the 58 barrel, insert 870 barrel and drill. Then set it up all over again for the second gas port.

    Anyone got any better ideas??
     
  16. kenshireen

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    My Dad's 58 Immaculate 12G

    My dad was a collector of guns and took immaculate care of his Sportman 58 12G. It actually looks about new although I remember we used it in the late 50's

    I don't have much knowledge about this rifle and would like some information from you guys since you seem extremely knowledgable.

    1-How can I tell is this is a magnum or standard
    2-It does have a choke but I don't remember what was its purpose
    3-There is a gas-vent with a H/L. I know this means high load or light but what setting would I use for a slug.
    4-How many cartidges does it hold.

    I know some of these sound ignorant but I cannot remember how we used it going back so long

    Thank you
    Ken
     
  17. Dave McCracken

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    1, they were,TTBOMK, 2 3/4" only.

    2, choke is a constriction in the barrel to tailor the pattern for a given distance and target.

    3,Heavy for slugs.

    4,As many as you can get in. Probably 4 in the tube.

    HTH....
     
  18. Old 58

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    The 58 holds a total of 3 rounds. 2 in the tube, 1 in the chamber. The piston assembly occupies the rest of the space in the tube.
    Hope this helps.

    Also, I just checked the owners manual, and it does mention a "MAGNUM". I would suggest to check the markings on the barrel and see if its marked 2 3/4" or 3". It also states that if its a standard, to set the "Dial-a Matic" to "L" for rifled slugs or OO buck.
     
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  19. Virginian

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    The Magnums I saw had 3" marked on the barrel and "Magnum" rollmarked on the receiver.
     
  20. Old 58

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    Alls Well

    Well, after digging out 60+ inches of snow this winter, scraping off 3 layers of wallpaper, picking up 5 layers of kitchen flooring and laying a new one, and painting the apartment, I finally got a chance to shoot the Sportsman 58 after the fix. So, after about 100 rounds at M&M Hunting Preserve over here in south Jersey, I'm proud to report not a single malfunction. Gun ran flawlessly. Now all I got to do, is do my part and hit them clays. Thanks again for all the help getting this gun up and running.
     
  21. highorder

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    A friend just found a Sportsman 58.

    Can anyone confirm the 870 barrel retrofit?
     
  22. Virginian

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    An 870 barrel will fit, but it has to be drilled with the correct holes.
     
  23. highorder

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    Thanks, further research confirms it.

    How cool; the 58 really is just an autoloading 870.
     
  24. mofugly13

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    Two weeks ago I ran 80+ rounds through my repaired 58 without a hiccup! I'd still love to hear if anyonme has any first hand experience with drilling an 870 barrel for gas ports.
     
  25. btg3

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    Bunns on ebay sells Remmington shotgun parts and has offered 870 barrels saying they can be drilled for the 58 for a few dollars more IIRC. So he may have experience. He also list 58 barrels saying they'll fit 870.

    I've bought other parts from him for my 58's in 20ga and 12ga -- both sweet shooters.

    If anyone needs a forend for their 58, I have a couple of NOS plain wood without checkering. Also, the action bar and base.
     
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