Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by PabloJ, Dec 3, 2016.
I grew up hunting with the 742 in 308. My grandfather used the same and my dad used one in 30-06. They honestly, in my opinion, are kinda crazy guns. Not extremely accurate, not particularly well balanced, a bit heavy for what they are, and many say they are not reliable though I've never had that issue. They also say that the 742 can't stand up to a lot of use. Supposedly the locking lugs or their recesses chew themselves up in short order.
But, on the other hand, my pawpaw harvested over 50 whitetail with his, I have taken around 20 with mine and my dads is credited with another 40 or so. So in short my family has put a lot of meals on the table with a 742 but I wouldn't consider it an heirloom quality rifle or anything.
I own 1 Rem 742 in 30-06. I use it as a loaner gun. But I can tell you with Rem safari grade ammo it will shoot 1 MOA all day every day and never jams. I can't top that with a $2000 AR10 or M1A.
But yeah the balance is, well, odd.
The 742's with the heavy bullets in .30-06 are reportedly the ones that get the bolt rail chew. Run 150s and they should last longer.
7400s have bigger lugs (lesser # too) and supposedly are not similarly afflicted.
Have had minor chewed rail guns work fine, and pristine ones cycle flawlessly.
Sold one to a guy who claimed it jammed on him constantly. He brought it to the range and I blasted it just fine.
He was a big dude, and soft...........yup, pillow shoulder was the cause of the jamming.
Note, one 742 was mint when I got it. Cold shot was 1" high at 100 yds. Next ones from hot bbl were 7 to 8" lower (the hot ones under 1.5" group).
Suspect the dreaded Mini 14 type of barrel warp.
Neat gun, sad it was jacked up.........proly why it was minty.
.35 whelen...............fun stuff. I'd like a pump in that. Shot a 700 classic when they came out in it (buddy had one). 250's at dang near .338 winmag V.
IIRC chrono was a little big in std dev, he used some filler to keep powder charge situated the same and things tightened right up. Do not remember what propellant he was using.
The 750 in that............sounds like fun Dunno how the new stuff is design/execution wise.........if the $$$ worth it on such a platform.
Heard quite a few 7600's have been rebored in the past to it. Evidently enough that they said they ought to do a factory version LOL
They make 10 shot mags for the Remington Woodmaster in 30-06. I wonder if they will work with the .35 Wheelen.
I think that .35 Wheelen is an awesome cannon! Make a dandy bear gun.
Agree to disagree. The .35 Whelen runs around 100-200fps behind the .338 Win Mag for a given bullet weight. It packs more energy, mass, and frontal area than the .30-06. The .30-06 is a great round, and if your hunting conditions regularly require 300+ yd shots, it or the .300 Win mag might be the better choice, but for 300yds and under, the .35 Whelen is a great thumper for anything on this continent. Assuming your gun has the right twist, it can even launch 300+ gr bullets around 2100-2200fps.
Looking at selection of 250gr .35 cal bullets vs. heavy .30 cal ones like 220gr is seems that there is large selection of spitzer type for former while latter are for some stupid reason mostly round nose. It seems that if one reloads the .35 Whelen is better heavy game cartridge than the .30-06.
I took many a deer & pronghorn with it. The reason I let it go, was the weight (heavy gun) 9 #'s with a scope.
I think any gun in a 35 Whelen is a worthy purchase (IMO). If the gun was designed from the factory
for the cartridge, than I would not hesitate, if you reload , don't load it "hot" they tend to over-react to hot loads.
Remington 700 Classic
It also puts the rifle in the thick forest / brush gun category with 225gr, 250gr-280gr bullets whereas the 30, 338 and below will start to fail at that role.
Also a faster killer due to the additional grain but specially the additional frontal section and the reputation of the 35 bore for massive
trauma and fast killing, just like the 375.
Definitely a big game gun but also very good on deer, small bears and anything. you can use 180gr-200gr for deer and hogs.
Another advantage of the 35 calibers is the capability to shoot affordable 357 pistol fmjs like popular 170gr, 180 and 200gr tmj for affordable and fun practice. Some are also good for hogs.
You might want to try this but with a light rifle embrace yourself...
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