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Remora no-clip IWB holster – value!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Holsters and Accessories' started by Erich, Aug 31, 2010.

  1. TexasGunbie

    TexasGunbie Member

    Aug 23, 2010
    Do you guys think Bandana holster will become mainstream?
  2. The Lone Haranguer

    The Lone Haranguer Elder

    Jul 30, 2006
    Johnson City, TN
    Here is an example of poor quality carry gear FAIL. (albeit a magazine pouch, not a holster)

  3. David E

    David E Mentor

    Aug 3, 2008
    Surely that would never happen in real life, right Erich? Oh, wait........snap !!

    It's poor policy and practice to use cheap life saving gear. Sometimes, it'll just cost you embarassment.........other times.............
  4. Erich

    Erich Participating Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    Albuquerque, New Mexico
    Wanted to update this: Alan sent me one of his RFT (reinforced top - allows for one-hand reholstering) holsters for my Ruger P90. I've given it a pretty serious workout for about a month, and I think it's pretty amazing.

    http://www.remoraholsters.com/Reinforced_Top_Holsters.html (note the 22 models presently made - no "one size fits all" mentality here)

    The RFT is a regular Remora clipless IWB, but with some sort of internal stiffening band that holds the mouth of the holster open to receive the gun. I was pretty skeptical, since I figured there either would not be enough tension to hold the gun in the holster or else it would not be strong enough to hold the holster open sufficiently. Another concern I had was that the open-mouth holster would add to the thickness of the carry rig and diminish concealability.

    As you may recall from the initial post on this thread, I don't feel a personal need to reholster one-handed in a hurry. I'm no gun-gamer and it's my educated opinion that a whole lot of the rushed holstering one sees in so much training is no less silly (and a heck of a lot more dangerous - this is where those Walter Mittys tend to put led into their own legs) than the fat guy I just saw waddling down the street in Royal Robbins pants, 5.11 boots, and a Shoot-Me-First vest.

    However, not everyone agrees with me, and I've seen a lot of "How do you holster it?" concern on the various forums where I've mentioned my happiness with the original Remora design. And, I have to admit, it's not a bad thing to be able to one-hand holster a gun: I can even think of a couple of (reasonably implausible, in my life) situations in which it might be a good thing to be able to do. So, I certainly understand why Alan engineered and has brought the RFT to market.

    So, like I said, I got one of these for my Ruger P90. The P90 is a pig. Friend Mas refers to it as the "AK47 of .45s", and I suspect he's talking about the bulk of the thing as well as its reliability. Frankly, the thickness of the gun puts it right about at the limit of what I like to carry IWB (appendix, of course - hat-tip to Gabe Suarez). The slide's not too bad, but the frame runs about 1.3" where it counts - I'm pretty trim, but this can get to be uncomfortable with the wrong holster.

    Which is why I was interested in trying the Remora. As noted above, the RFT's open-mouth design gave me some concern. In over a month of wearing the thing, I've found that the RFT is engineered perfectly well, and - in fact - I'd prefer this holster over the regular Remora model, just for the slight added benefit of the option of one-hand holstering.

    So. What did I do with the P90/RFT combo over that test period? Housework - cooking, cleaning, laundry. Sitting around reading and watching TV. Completely cleaning and re-arranging the garage. Driving for hours on the interstate. Running errands, in and out and in and out and in and out of the car. Major yardwork - chopping and hauling brush. Going out to dinner. Going to the range. Going to church, dressed nice. Playing with kids: board games on the floor and running around the yard. Attending charity board meetings. Going shopping. Getting in and out of all manner of vehicles. And I climbed halfway up the mountain behind the house a couple of times, clambering over rocks on all fours, jumping down, stepping up - real physical.

    Through all of this (as with the regular Remora), the RFT never moved - so long as I had my belt properly tightened. I was able to run to the mailbox with the RFT/P90 combo stuffed in my beltless shorts, but I wouldn't consider it secure without some sort of pressure from a belt wedging the sticky holster between me and my pants. (This was not an issue with my PPS - which I now carry in nothing other than the Remora - but that gun is a lot lighter. Even with the additional sticky surface to add friction to the larger RFT holster for the P90, the weight of the gun and all those heavy .45 rounds on board can cause an unbelted holster to shift in the waistband with moderate activity.) Of course, I'd not recommend anyone carry a gun IWB without a belt, but I wanted to note that the RFT cannot magically negate the mass of a large gun - as I said, run to the mailbox without a belt, fine, just always use a belt to secure the holster when carrying for real.

    I have to tell you, the second clamber up the mountain over the rocks (this past Saturday) really was a workout. I was trying to shake the thing loose, lunging and jumping from rock to rock. No go - the RFT really held the P90 solidly against my abdomen.

    Now, the re-holsterability. It works. It sort of amazes me, because I never would have even tried to engineer something like this. (Alan's good at this stuff! ) I own two Milt Sparks holsters. The Remora RFT allows much easier one-handed holstering than they do (though it's not as pretty by a factor of about a hundred ) with the same level of carry security - for a heck of a lot less money.

    Here's the really amazing part: the holster is not bulkier than the non-RFT Remora. When the holster is inserted into the pant, the internal stiffening band curls within the pant but does not flare out. When the gun is removed, the band provides sufficient outward push to keep the mouth of the holster open. Even with the belt tight. Reholstering is as simple as sliding the gun easily into the mouth of the holster; once the gun is seated, the internal friction of the holster and the pressure from the waistband against the outside of the holster makes sure the gun doesn't move. Even when you're leaping from boulder to boulder . . . .

    Like the original Remora, the RFT completely protects those parts of the gun that it covers from sweat. Let me tell you, I sweated like nobody's business doing some of the activities detailed above. Nothing got through to the parts of the gun that were covered. Not surprising for a company out of Florida, Remoras are also available with sweat guards.

    The Remora RFT really works for me - I'm surprised to say it, but I'd recommend it even over the original Remora product.
  5. TT

    TT member

    Oct 3, 2005
    Sunnyvale, **********
    After reading the initial post, I ordered one of the original Remora holsters for my Springfield EMP. It didn’t work very well with the EMP because the short barrel/heavy grip combo seemed to make the gun work up and out of the holster. I then tried the same holster with a Kahr CW9 and found it worked pretty well. The absence of a clip allows me to position the holster wherever I want both radially and in the vertical. I’m not concerned with the reholstering issue. Overall I’m pretty happy with it. Thanks to the OP for posting about it.
  6. smince

    smince Member.

    May 19, 2005
    Northeast Alabama
    Ask Gabe sometime what he might think about this holster design...:rolleyes:
  7. ecureed

    ecureed New Member

    Jul 20, 2006
    Winterville, NC
    curiosity kills....

    After reading the review by the op and a very popular thread about the remora on defensivecarry.com I ordered one last night. It's the #4P (has a built in mag carrier) with sweat shield. I'll be using mine for my Kel-Tec PF9. I'm really excited to try it out and will give a review when I receive mine.

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