Repressive states...ever considered moving?

[no_problem]

California has a lifestyle that can't be beat! Great place for the youth.

But I moved to the east coast for my wife. As far as gun laws, quite an improvement over California...but could be better.

 

[elrod]

bear71

......and they don't call it Gods country for nothin'.

That's right, nobody else would have it!

 

[PRazz]

Don't move to Kentucky. Nothin to see here, keep moving along.

I grew up in Ny, then lived in Va while in .mil, then moved back to Ny and realized it was not for me anymore. So I settled in Kentucky with my wife and kids. I think living in Virginia gave me a taste of freedom that I sorely missed once back in Ny. Cost of living and family were also a factor but not as much as our gun rights, the restrictions really ate away at me until I had enough. Most of my family lives here in Ky anyway and the ones still in Ny, like my Mom and sister, will be moved down here within a few years for sure.

My advice is, if your not happy where you are for whatever reason then move. Life is to short to put up with alot of b. and take alot of s. from anyone or anything.

 

[DENALI]

This is an interesting question. I just posted with some kid in NYC yesterday who's now guilty of a (D) felony for satiating his lust and aquiring two 15-round G-19 mags. Ten and your a good boy, 11+ and it's off to riker's. Upstate N.Y. is awfully beautiful, ditto much of CA but I don't blend well with folk's who are control freaks, and as such I would never even entertain the notion of a short visit to either locale let alone live there. If my current state goes any more to the left of it's current position I'll return to Alaska....

 

[Elza]

I left the PRK for Texas in ’84. Haven’t looked or been back since.

 

[Black Adder LXX]

I'm in the opposite situation.... I'm in the 'Gunshine State' but am getting sick of the people, the crime and the summers. The only problem is looking at where else to go with good gun laws AND no state income tax... Maybe I'll just move north some...

 

[bear71]

Excellent posts by all, strong thread!

Thanks for all the contributions.

 

[Vaarok]

No. I'd rather stay and fight than turn and run. Plus it's hard to relocate three hundred acres, two hundred cows, and ten years of sweat equity from the my parents and myself on the basis of one political point.

Besides, I buy preban.

 

[BridgeWalker]

I'm hardly in an especially repressive state, but there are several more gun-friendly states and some folks have left MI over gun laws. For myself, I love Michigan so much that I don't plan on ever leaving. Staying in MI is even one of those things that was important to both me and my husband that we discussed it before getting married. We're a lot happier now that we're out of Detroit, and more in love with Michigan than ever. Crappy economy, crappy handgun purchase system, Canadian governor, cesspit in the southeast, and all, we're not leaving. We'll stick around here 'til it gets better or we die waiting. It would take an awful lot to make us move.

 

[Redtail]

I live here in Oahu, HI. 'Been here for about 4 years. Prior to that I lived in KS. I stayed there for about 8 months. Hawaii has horrible gun laws. That's the main reason why I want to move, others are traffic, overcrowding and over development, high cost of living.

One thing that I really like about this place are the people, they are very friendly and down to earth. Not like someplace when I was in KS.

If I would have the financial means I'd move in a heart beat to a more gun friendly state and values self defense as a human right.

But then I realize, if I do that, that's one less voice for gun rights here. So, I think I just need to press on as long as there is hope.

 

[Vector]

Heck, all you in repressive states should come to Florida. Not only is it a gun friendly state, you can't beat the weather and no state income tax.

 

[brighamr]

Lived in CA. Realized that even with my voice, the laws were only going to get worse (and they did = micro stamping). Anyway, spent several months training and searching for a new job. I got really good offers in Oakland and San Jose, but the pay increase wasn't worth the lousy gun laws, traffic, smog, and crime rates. Finally I landed a VO job, for a little less money, but it allows me to work anywhere in the lower 48.

Now I live in MT Every single day I have open carried, I fish two to three times per week, shoot in my back yard, and in two weeks I'll get a CWP (Shall Issue). The crime is virtually non existant (in my county), traffic doesn't exist, smog isn't visible, and I can walk into any gun store and purchase a gun without any wait period\finger print\etc.

I have never regretted the move, I don't mind the higher income tax, and I like it so much here I'm looking to invest in my state.

 

[Bruce333]

But then I realize, if I do that, that's one less voice for gun rights here. So, I think I just need to press on as long as there is hope.

Good for you!

I'm always a little disappointed when people say they are moving from a "repressive" State, as you said that's 1 less voice for our side. It is possible to change things, look whats going on in Illinois right now.

 

[Elza]

Black Adder LXX: The only problem is looking at where else to go with good gun laws AND no state income tax...

No state income tax in Texas! And the gun laws aren’t bad either. (Just stay away from Houston and Austin.)

 

[BADUNAME16]

I'm another "Gunshine State" res--I think I'm tired of the heat, people, and crime too--heck, sick of FL in general.
But I refuse to "trade down" to a more restrictive state.
My wife, bless her heart, would love to move to CA.
I just can't do it.
If and when we do move, this will be but one more angle to consider.

 

[Pilgrim]

After retirement and the PMS leaving me, there was nothing holding me back from leaving CA for ID. I will probably change my residence to NV to save income tax.

Pilgrim

 

[geekWithA.45]

Never underestimate the power of voting with your feet.

Humans have this extraordinary super power of "sucking it up", of acclimatizing themselves to extreme suckage.

You don't have to.

Way too many are seduced into excercising that super power for whatever reason, and they massively underestimate the corrosive effect upon their spirit and their outlook.

In America, our America, today, there are places where the prevailing attitudes, which people mistake for norms are so wildly divergent from principles of liberty and self determination that these places might as well be a foriegn country.

Some of these places are, for the foreseeable future, hopeless.

There are forces, powerful, deeply entrenched forces that have created and sustain these oppressive conditions, for which there are no practical effective countermeasures.

If you take a critical look at your situation, and determine that you are in one of those unredeemable areas, do yourself a favor.

Get.

Out.


I did, and it was worth every bit of what it cost.

 

[HungSquirrel]

Moving to Illinois was the worst decision I ever made. Moving back is, so far, the best.

 

[dcal]

Geek, given your location I'd imagine you meet increasingly more people voting with their feet. From what I understand, there has been a somewhat of an exodus from NJ going on for years now. I imagine PA and NC are being populated with refugees. Any truth to that where you are?

 

[loop]

Won't live east of the Rockies or west of the Sierra Nevadas...
Now in rural Arizona and it is much too restrictive for my taste. However, most ppl think of the state as gun friendly. Just be another California in a few years when all the West Coast refugees finally get here. Most ppl here now think its odd when you have 20 or 30 (or 50 or 100) guns and 15 or 20,000 rounds of ammo.
Fortunately there are a lot of old timers who are heavily invested in their firearms so they put up a good fight when the libs try to restrict our Second Amendment rights.
My experience is Idaho, Utah and New Mexico are the least intrusive.
I won't even drive across the California line (only 25 miles away) lest I unwittingly become a felon.
OTOH, most of the places I've lived the past 30+ years have a lot of militia types.
Not bad fellows once you get to know them ... takes a while though. LOL

 

[dakotasin]

I'm leaving CA as soon as I find a job -- any job -- somewhere in the West (UT, AZ, CO, SD, WY, ID, etc.). I can't even purchase a Kel-Tec here, among others...Anyone know of a good employment oopportunity?
619-807-5382

yes, several - though they are all in wyoming. if you're serious, shoot me a pm w/ the kind of work you're after.

back to the topic at hand... i left ca. in 1995. had my fill of the nonsense by then.

 

[Nitrogen]

Yes. And I did.

I lived in California for over 10 years, and moved to Texas in October of 2005, and havn't looked back since.

 

[RobTzu]

Sticking in a state where the grabbers overwhelm you weakens the gun rights cause. Best way to explain is for you to play this game:

http://www.redistrictinggame.org/

 

[fjolnirsson]

Quote:
I not only considered moving from the People's Republic of California, but did so in 2002. Life in the United States is much better.
Same here. I left in Oct of 2003. My reasons for leaving was the generally oppressive government, out of control growth, cost of living, etc. Love it here, and as a plus, I discovered I actually have firearm rights in the US.

Actually, yesterday marked three years n Oregon, escaped from CA. I echo the sentiment of the preceding posters. Oregon has problems, but they pale in comparison to what I dealt with living n the S.F. Bay Area.

 

[bigun15]

I'm stuck in California because (and this is one not used yet) I'm still a minor. Not only that, but I graduate high school in '08 and after that I'm staying here for college because it's so much cheaper, I have a place picked out, and I know the area. But after college is done I'm getting out.