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Repressive states...ever considered moving?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by bear71, Dec 22, 2007.

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  1. Nomad101bc

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    Yes *** is up with the state of KS. I go to KU and its like whats wrong with these people? They are without the charm of the south, the speed of the east, the tolerance of the west, and arrogant as all hell. People from Missouri seem to be alot nicer than the folks from KS. KS also has bad gun laws worse than my home state.

    I would consider moving to maybe Missouri for the hunting and gun laws but most likely I plan to move to New Hamphire for the pro gun laws and no state income tax.
     
  2. Soybomb

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    My friends and family are here, besides if all of us pro-gun people leave who will be left to fix the state? The big problem in IL is lack of concealed carry and eventually I think we can make that happen even if not in the immediate future.
     
  3. ArfinGreebly

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    An Interesting Note

    Some years back, California passed some fun laws that increased penalties (taxes, fees) on businesses.

    There was a mini-exodus of businesses from CA into Nevada and Arizona, with some leakage to Oregon and Washington.

    Jobs went with them, and other dominoes tipped over.

    The legislature found itself losing revenue and no relief in sight.

    They reversed some of those laws and changed some other parameters to attempt to attract business back to California. The measures were not entirely successful, and very few actually came back, but they quit bleeding business at such a high rate.

    They did something dumb and people left in droves and it scared them into making changes.

    If you could achieve a large-scale departure, especially of businesses, you would have an impact.

    With individuals leaving by ones and twos, the process will take longer.

    I would imagine, if several dozen businesses of some size left amid much noise about why they were leaving, it would give the legislature some incentive to have a "duh!" moment.

    I recently moved.

    I moved from Nevada to Idaho. There was nothing accidental about the move. I took a pay cut and gave up various perks for specific gains. Among the parameters that drove my choice of new employment was that it had to be in a state at least as gun-friendly as Nevada.

    I think I did okay.

    We're going out to Fernan Lake (very near Coeur d'Alene) on New Year's Day and blow stuff up. There will be old cars, Tannerite, and Class III goodness.

    Just me and several dozen of my closest (new) friends.

    You can join us if you like.
     
  4. stevek

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    We are getting the house ready to put on the market. This is despite the fact that our 2 kids and 5 grandkids live here in the PRNJ. We're looking in PA, NH, and TN. Leaning more towards NH or PA, as they will be within driving range for long weekends with the kids and grandkids. We just cannot abide with the corruption, tax situation, and laws, here in PRNJ. Unfortunately, there is such a large number of people that get their cut from the state, either through employment or entitlement programs, that I just don't see how it will turn around anytime soon. :(
     
  5. 22-rimfire

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    I live in Tennessee. I can live with the finger prints, but for the life of me I can't figure out what purpose they serve when buying a gun. It is annoying, but not a deal breaker for living here. Prior to the NICs check, TN had a waiting period for handguns to allow the state to check your background. It has been that way for a long time. Gunshows had LEO's there who for a fee would call in the purchase and you could walk out with the firearm. Years ago, I'm told that folks just went to GA to purchase their guns. That changed with the 1968 Gun Control Act. Sounds like buying beer when you are 18 vs 21 in my home state of PA. Maryland had 18 as the legal drinking age.

    PA is a great state overall although the New York liberalism is creeping into politics there now. TN is great. Other than not having convenient trout fishing, I love the state.

    I moved here from KY. I have lived in PA, TX, KY, GA, and TN. In every case, I moved because of a job. My number one selection criteria is geography. No 2 is cost of living. The firearm issue becomes more important to me as I become more politically active and aware. Freedom isn't Free.
     
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  6. Spot77

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    Another interesting note:

    I've read quite a few people here and on other gun forums say that they moved simply to get to a state with less strict gun laws.

    Yet I live here in Maryland, with some pretty strict gun laws and have never, EVER heard somebody say they moved here because of our strict gun laws. :confused:


    Maybe they moved here because of our ultra low crime rate.....oh wait, nevermind. :mad:
     
  7. worthirt_99

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    I'm going to GA, is there anything wrong there? Oh BTW, I'm not moving to GA by choice.
     
  8. nhhillbilly

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    I escaped from NJ about 21 years ago. I never regretted it. NH is much freer. Less pay but more freedom well worth the trade off.

    I voted with my feet as I could not see NJ getting any better.
     
  9. Gary G23

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    I actually moved from Illinois to Kentucky two years ago for that very reason. It's a world of difference down here. I'll never move back.

    I can carry any weapon I want concealed. I can carry a loaded AR15 in my car. I can carry a handgun either open or concealed. I can carry a switchblade knife. I just bought a new pistol last week and didn't have a waiting period or even a background check. I can purchase NFA weapons if I choose to do so.

    I wish I would have moved years ago.
     
  10. Deanimator

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    I'm from Apartheid Chicago. My mother's tried to get me to move back there. I flat turned her down cold. I told her if she needed a lot of help, she could move in with me in Ohio.

    Illinois (nevermind Chicago) just keeps getting worse and worse. Repressive gun controls are almost always a symptom of a deeper rot in a society.

    There's simply no reason to live someplace where you're miserable.
     
  11. 22-rimfire

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    Not as far as guns go. It depends on what you like. I can't say I like Atlanta if that is where you are going. Big cities are fun when you are single, but I don't care for them overall and have moved as soon as it was practical and there was a job available to me. Now I'm self employed and I like it that way.
     
  12. Intrepid Dad

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    I moved to Colorado three years ago before I woke up and realized I had 2nd Amendment rights. The skiing is what brought me here but our gun laws are pretty good (especially if you live outside of Denver). I'm very lucky that I chose Colorado since gun laws never crossed my mind when we chose to move here. My other top choices were Utah, Montana and Idaho so I would have been OK with any of those.

    I should mention that I moved from Georgia which is hardly a repressive state.
     
  13. The Lone Haranguer

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    I am a native of California, only having been in Arizona since 2005. I suddenly found myself "between jobs";) in 2003. With no prospect of finding another good job in my field in the region of California I was living in, rather than move to a different area within the state, I decided to make a complete break. The gun laws of first Nevada (except for Clark County/Vegas), then Arizona, played no small part in this decision.
     
  14. worthirt_99

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    Going near Macon
     
  15. ZeSpectre

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    Lived on the edge of DC. As I've said before I'm not saying that gun rights is the only reason we moved but it sure was an important part of the package and it's why we moved into southern VA and not MD!
     
  16. dmftoy1

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    You know . .I was thinking about this more last night and the thing that'll probably cause me to leave Illinois more than the gun control laws (unless they change) will be the property taxes. We pay pretty high state income taxes and the property taxes on top of it are astronomical. I'm thinking that will drive us out when my wife retires. We have the same absolute/total government corruption that some people from NJ have mentioned and that won't change ever here I don't think.
     
  17. worthirt_99

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    Things will change in IL. I'm thinking the Cubs will have to win the World Series though. :what:



    (puts on flame suit)
     
  18. Colt46

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    Being Californian I regret living here almost daily.

    Too many people, too many taxes, crumbling infrastructure(our highways are atrocious), too many bull**** laws such as no duck liver pate' or eating horse, and the inability to buy kangaroo leather products.
    Me and the girlfriend are looking in the Grant's Pass area of Oregon.
    Can't wait.
     
  19. spwenger

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    I Did It Over Seven Years Ago

    November 7, 1998, Gray Davis was elected governor of California. Among his campaign promises were that he would sign an enhanced "assault weapon" ban and a ban on "Saturday night specials," if the legislature would send him the bills.

    November 8, 1998, I informed my boss and co-workers that 1999 would be my last year in California.

    After an absence of over 35 years, I returned to Arizona in July 1999. I already held an Arizona Concealed Weapon Permit and quickly came to appreciate the freedom of being able to buy, sell and swap firearms among friends and to be able to buy firearms from non-FFL's at gun shows with no paperwork. Even when buying from an FFL, when you present your CWP, there is no call to NICS and Arizona imposes no waiting periods. There is no list of state approved handguns nor of banned semi-automatic firearms. If you want to jump through the NFA hoops and pay the prices, you can own short-barrel rifles and shotguns, suppressors and full-auto firearms. (While there may be an occasional police chief who will deny the endorsement, I believe that all 15 sheriffs will give it.)

    I was fortunate to work in a profession that is still experiencing a nationwide shortage so I had no trouble lining up a job before my move. I did leave behind a couple of very good friends and numerous other friends. In a state with a high rate of firearm ownership I have readily made new friends with similar interests in each of the three small communities I have lived since my initial move back here.
     
  20. kamagong

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    California is my home. My family is here. I believe in family, and I want to raise my children in a place surrounded by their grandparents, cousins, aunts, and uncles.

    I also love the weather and the diversity. Very few places in this country have a melting pot as mixed as California. I know that sometimes diversity is not all that it's cracked up to be, but I consider it important.
     
  21. AirplaneDoc

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    I'm getting out of Illinois as soon as possible. I don't plan to look back either, and the gun laws are just part of the reason to move. Told my family, they need to plan on moving as well, cause I don't plan to set come back. They looked around and decided there was some merit to my line of thinking and are planning to get out before the fence goes up as well.
     
  22. spwenger

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    You Pay Your Money and You Take Your Choices

    Each of us has to set his own priorites. It's a shame that "diversity" in Califronia has resulted in such a high level of infringement of the RKBA.
     
  23. lee n. field

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    Thought of moving? Yeah.

    This is my home. This is where I've lived my whole life. My parents are here, they're getting up in years and I want to be there for them if need be.

    And I'm far from rich -- moving would be a major financial hardship.

    Cold.
     
  24. 2TransAms

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    I'm with Lee. Thought about it? All the time. I want to move to San Antonio TX,where my wife is from.

    But I build new homes with my dad and brother,and I do pretty well. I think it would be foolish to walk away from that,especially with a family to think of.

    But Illinois does suck,and gun laws aren't the only reason why.
     
  25. Guns_and_Labs

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    California is my home. Born and raised, multigenerational family, etc.

    I've lived in other states and other countries, temporarily for professional reasons, but always found the overall equation here better. Not to mention that I can make enough here to pay for the second home in another state.

    Yes, the politics are kooky, but if I moved out, there'd be one less voice of opposition to the kookiness.
     
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