Request for CSPAN Junkies
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Dear Senator Durbin,
Speaking as an Illinois Peace Officer....I can say that you do not care anything about us except for using us to posture for a political agenda. I am shocked that you can not see the logic of the Craig Amendment. I will continue to do everything legally within my power to see that you spend the next session after your term expires practicing law in Springfield.
Sir, you smear yourself with the blood of my brothers to further two political goals, to keep trial lawyers employed and to use the courts to accomplish what you can't in the Senate; to destroy the legal firearms industry.
When will you introduce legislation to protect us from the junk and harrassing lawsuits that we are saddled with in the normal course of our employment?
Resepctfully,
Jeffrey L White
Patrolman
_______ Illinois Police Dept.
Speaking as an Illinois Peace Officer....I can say that you do not care anything about us except for using us to posture for a political agenda. I am shocked that you can not see the logic of the Craig Amendment. I will continue to do everything legally within my power to see that you spend the next session after your term expires practicing law in Springfield.
Sir, you smear yourself with the blood of my brothers to further two political goals, to keep trial lawyers employed and to use the courts to accomplish what you can't in the Senate; to destroy the legal firearms industry.
When will you introduce legislation to protect us from the junk and harrassing lawsuits that we are saddled with in the normal course of our employment?
Resepctfully,
Jeffrey L White
Patrolman
_______ Illinois Police Dept.
oneslowgun
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"the constitiun of the U.S. allows for the people to keep and bear arms... and if you dont like it get over it.." Jeff Sessions
Yea!
Yea!
Sessions: Cops aren't telling me if they are shot, they want to sue gun mfgs. They believe criminals should go to jail for it, for shooting cops. They should be executed. A lot who oppose this legislation oppose execution for cop murderers. In American law, wrong doers are the ones to be sued. If a criminal shoots somebody, sue who shot you! That is what the law is about. The law has been politicized, that a gun mfg or dealer who has complied with all the laws, that somehow they are the ones who should be sued for what someone does with their product farther down the line. Lists the extensive things dealers are already responsible for, such as ID checks. I think what we need to focus on is that the constitution of this nation allows our people to keep and bear arms. If you don't agree with that, get over it. This idea of mayors and such filing lawsuits against gun mfg who comply with the law in an end run effort for anti-gun efforts. Big liberal cities don't understand where Americans are on hunting and other shooting. There is a concerted effort to use liberal courts to knock down the rights of mfgs.
Taipei Personality
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Sessions: The Constitution says that the American people have the right to keep and bear and arms. To those who don't like it; get over it!
Moparmike
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Sessions:
Maybe I should move to Alabama!!!
Maybe I should move to Alabama!!!
Mark Tyson
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Way to throw down the gauntlet, Sessions.
RIGHT ON.
RIGHT ON.
Reed is up, stating that FFL is becoming license for negligence. States just for following regulations shouldn't exempt you from liability. Says we want it both ways to decry lawsuits on gun mfgs, and still give sniper victims and cops their day in court. Can't be both ways. We are telling dealers, NRA, etc. to be negligent. Be irresponsible.
Bartholomew Roberts
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I think there were two Frist/Craig amendments - the first was an AP ammo bill to counter Kennedy's bill and no vote was held on Kennedy's - so I don't think they voted on the Frist/Craig amendment either.
The second was designed to shaft Mikulski's amendment. There is no text yet, so I can't see whether it includes the AP ammo language or not
The second was designed to shaft Mikulski's amendment. There is no text yet, so I can't see whether it includes the AP ammo language or not
dustind
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"you were in the wrong place comrade johnson" - Edit: whoops conrade Johnson, my bad.
Jeff White: That is a great letter.
Jack Reed was up, now lautenberg is up again.
Lautenberg is going on about how police
"what does it got to if we locked the suit from a law enforcement" - he talks in a speed up slow down cycle
I wished I nabbed some of his dumber quotes. He is studdering like a drunk.
Jeff White: That is a great letter.
Jack Reed was up, now lautenberg is up again.
Lautenberg is going on about how police
"what does it got to if we locked the suit from a law enforcement" - he talks in a speed up slow down cycle
I wished I nabbed some of his dumber quotes. He is studdering like a drunk.
Moparmike
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dustind, I think that was Conrad. Too bad, as we could finally start calling these people the commies they really are.
oneslowgun
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"After Bush's second term is over how about this?
Craig for President
Sessions for VP"
Nice thought garrettwc
Craig for President
Sessions for VP"
Nice thought garrettwc
Mark Tyson
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I wish they were as concerned about our right to bear arms as they are about our right to sue the bejeezus out of private industry . . .
dustind
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Aye!
Jon Corzine is up, with a picture of a police offcier. He is the bills sponsor.
"this is not about the right to bear arms, not about the 2nd amendment"
"these are not frivilous suits"
Here is an idea Corzine, sue car mfgs. they have more money. No wait, a judge and jury that hates cars are impossible to find, plus that would *really* sound rediculous, never mind.
sumpnz
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By my calcs, this thread will have about 3000 posts by Tuesday evening (presumably when they'll vote on this issue). That's assuming basically the same rate of about 31 posts/hour, but very little posting over the weekend. I'll shout 1 box of ammo to all THR members who show up to Desert Trails Gun Club in Tucson on Sunday, March 7 if there are less than 3000 total posts to this thread by the time the final vote on S.1805 takes place.
Corzine: We shouldn't take away cops rights to sue both the person who shot them and those who provide the means for that. Due to 1805, that officer will lose his right to sue. This is not about the RKBA, it's about protecting yourself in court. These people know the law and are not bringing frivoulous suits. (IT DOESN'T SINCE THE DEALERS YOU MENTIONED DID ILLEGAL ACTS)
oneslowgun
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FOP oposes the ammendment !!! "we just talked to them, they just called us" Craig.
Yea! you tell 'em!
Yea! you tell 'em!
dustind
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Larry Craig is arguing *for* simple, clean, laws. Are you guys sure he is a politician??? that can not be right.
"that lawsuit was thrown out, yet it cost the industry, the law abiding industry 100s of millions of dollars."
calling for ayes and nays.
This may take a while...
roll call vote 1st amendment to the gun liability bill.
Is this the police amendment?
"that lawsuit was thrown out, yet it cost the industry, the law abiding industry 100s of millions of dollars."
calling for ayes and nays.
This may take a while...
roll call vote 1st amendment to the gun liability bill.
Is this the police amendment?
Craig: In his debate, he mentioned criminal, criminal activity. I ask him to return to the bill. An action may be brought if directly harmed by illegal action. The FoP opposes the Corzine amdt. They don't believe it accomplishes what they want, and they like 1805. We need to build clean principles in the law. That cop won't file a junk suit, I agree. But over 30 have been filed. That's what this throws out. Counties or such file in the name of a fallen officer. It's thrown out, but still costs mfgs hundreds of millions of dollars, mfgs who often create the product used in their duty.
EDIT for grammar.
EDIT for grammar.
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