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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Drgong, Aug 20, 2008.

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  1. Drgong

    Drgong Member

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    When was the last time a NFA Registered Machine gun used in a commission of a crime? :scrutiny:
     
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    As far as I know, it has only happened once and it was a police officer that committed it. I don't remember where I saw this. Two different sources, same info. One was while researching Miller.
    And it was quite awhile ago.
     
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    That would be the Patrolman Roger Waller case
     
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    Dont know if this would count but 3 nfs registeres machine guns were stolen in Portsmouth VA about 3 to 5 years ago and one turned up in a gas station robery same city. The guy aparently droped in in the parking lot jumping into a get away car.
     
  5. Happiness Is A Warm Gun

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    There is 1 confirmed (involving a police officer using a weapon registered to police department) and possibly a second.
    http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcfullau.html
    The other homicide, possibly involving a legally owned machine gun, occurred on September 14, 1992, also in Ohio.
    Some books cite this as a legal machinegun and others do not. The article referenced does not clearly indicate either way. The gun was traced back to a legal FFL sale so likely had it been illegal it would have been a much bigger separate news story "local gun shop sells illegal machine-gun". Personally I think it was a legal NFA registered machine-gun but without some research we may never know for sure.

    Even if we include the Ho case that is a grand total of 2 legal machineguns used in crime. The sheer iron is one of them invovles a post-86 weapon. Civilians are unable to purchase them but a LEO used a post-86 weapon to murder someone.

    Even crime with illegal machineguns is extremely low (far lowering than virtually any other weapon firearm or not).
     
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    I appreciate the stats. I wonder how many post-86 fully automatics are now in police hands since the gov't began transferring M16's to the local PD level.

    I would not be surprised to find the number of full auto's in PD's has gone up substantially.
     
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    The cop does not count as he is a cop, (by my ratings)

    From what I read the Dr had a registered piece. This is the only other known murder.

    There was a member on here who said that some guy in Texas had a suppressor and a M16 and took out a flock of deer with it ( all were legal).

    So without more evidence it could be said no crimes were committed with NFA weapons at this point.
     
  8. TexasRifleman

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    That's how I always look at it, though the cop one could be argued I guess.

    There are 2 other times that an NFA machinegun was used and the owner was charged but both of them were found not guilty or no billed in the first place.

    One was the guy that worked for HK and used an AC-556 in self defense and the other guy was a gun store owner who used something, Uzi I think, to shoot at robbers.

    If I remember right that gun store owner actually used full auto TWICE in self defense. Good shoot both times of course.

    The guns were returned in these cases, not kept forever as some people will claim.
     
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